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daveinpoway
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One in Six PC's Could Be Infected With Malware

Read about it here: »www.networkworld.com/news/2007/1···security


swhx7
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Other articles have said, for example, 50% (internetnews), 88% (synergymx.com) . The "Infected or not" website came up with 26% (pandasecurity) (self-selected population).

There's probably no practical way to get a really reliable number.

dave
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reply to daveinpoway
That figure can't be right, I've got 8 PCs at home and none of them are infected


dadkins
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said by dave See Profile :

That figure can't be right, I've got 8 PCs at home and none of them are infected
LOL!

Reminds me of a friend, who heard that 1 in 10 scratch-off Lottery tickets was a winner...

He went and blew 10 dollars expecting to win. LOL!
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AB
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said by dave See Profile :

That figure can't be right, I've got 8 PCs at home and none of them are infected
One's infected and one's a third of the way there-- you just don't know it yet.

Last year there was a techno big-shot (Linus Torvalds or somebody) who claimed at a tech conference that maybe 25% of the world's computers were infected or bots.
I didn't buy it then and I'm not buying it now.

That's hundreds of millions of machines spewing spam and malware. They'd choke up the Senator's tubes and trucks so badly that just getting online would be an issue for everyone, it seems to me.

A ton of computers infected out there? Sure. 25-50% of all machines in world? Nope.
Unless maybe 25% of them have WGA. Were they including that?

*Edit- math


Owlbet
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reply to dave
said by dave See Profile :

That figure can't be right, I've got 8 PCs at home and none of them are infected
Six (soon to be seven) at home and one at a remote location and not one is infected. I sense a flawed logic in the article.


Blackbird
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reply to AB
said by AB See Profile :

... Last year there was a techno big-shot (Linus Torvalds or somebody) who claimed at a tech conference that maybe 25% of the world's computers were infected or bots. ...
Hmm. Last year, 25% infected (per Torvalds). This year, 16.7% (per Hutch). Sounds to me like real progress has been made over the last year. You just gotta love statistics... especially the over-simplifed, dramatic ones!
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Link Logger
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Apparently my computer is one of the five clean ones

edit - Now thinking about this for a second who is more likely to do an online scan of their computer, someone who is confident that their system is protected and clean or someone who thinks they might have a problem? So I think one could say that this claim is somewhat tainted by poor averaging.

Blake
edit - the second image is the stats from their site.


Link Logger
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And my Vista box also came up clean, so I feeling like that one in six infected system isn't anywhere around here.

Blake


jabarnut
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reply to daveinpoway
Oh my!

I think the statistics may be even worse than one in six.

My first three were fine, but look at the last one!

Just kidding, I borrowed their Pic for a minute:/

It's all good here.
I attribute it to my two best "layers of security".
My highly trained right index finger, and what's left of my Brain.
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Shriyash
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said by Link Logger See Profile :

Now thinking about this for a second who is more likely to do an online scan of their computer, someone who is confident that their system is protected and clean or someone who thinks they might have a problem? So I think one could say that this claim is somewhat tainted by poor averaging.
My thinking exactly.
1 in 6? cant be that much.


yock
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reply to AB
said by AB See Profile :

Last year there was a techno big-shot (Linus Torvalds or somebody) who claimed at a tech conference that maybe 25% of the world's computers were infected or bots.
For what it's worth, the only reference I can find on Google which mentions Linus and malware in the same sentence is this thread. Can you be more specific?


cork1958
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reply to daveinpoway
For the everyday, non tech savvy joe blow user, I bet that figure is way low even!
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Cabal
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reply to daveinpoway
Unless only one in the average 6 PCs is running Windows, the number has to be much higher. I shudder to think of my Average Joe neighbors without a clue as to good computer security, unknowingly runnning spambots because they didn't do their monthly patching and did something stupid, or their kids clicking on every link they can get their hands on...
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Alakar
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reply to daveinpoway
The people on this forum sometimes forget that they are in the minority. Most PC users out there haven't got a clue (how many users does AOL still have?). How many of you guys get calls from family, friends, neighbors that are having PC problems, and when you look at their machines they are nothing but virus's and malware? I think 1 in 6 is low.
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bcruze

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im glad im not part of those statistics


Blackbird
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reply to daveinpoway
I sure wish some of you guys posting here would turn up an infected machine or two... otherwise, the odds increase that I'm going to have the infected one. For a moment there, it looked like jabarnut See Profile had ridden to the rescue, but alas...
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dave
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I've just realised -- with virtualization (Virtual PC, VMware) it's possible to have "N out of every M, N>M" systems infected.

So, somewhere there's a guy who has 6 out of every 1 PCs infected, and he's making up for our lousy showing here.


batterup
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reply to daveinpoway
Do a scan and you will most likely find at least one double-click cookie. That is malware.


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Vint Cerf:
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