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AnonProxy
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Host file

Can you host file the referred to web page and re-redirect the request?

Like if you know all mistypes go to www.search.verizon.com, if you redirected search.verizon.com to another site, would that work?



Jodokast96
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Why go through all of that. Just use different DNS servers. They don't lock you into theirs.



AnonProxy
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It's more of a question than a suggestion.
As for why, the converse could be said...why not? I am not assured of faster or "better" DNS service from a "third party"
In fact in some companies (my institution for example) many fo the "alternate" DNS servers are blocked.



en102
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

I agree... there's a difference between having to 'opt out' of Verizon's or any other ISP's 'site finder DNS' vs. having to 'opt in'.
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Jodokast96
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reply to AnonProxy

Speaking specifically about Verizon, yeah, you will get better service from a third party. What work does isn't really your concern, is it? You are going to use what they want you to anyway.

They do not return false results. They tell you the page can't be found and give you a list of things that may have been what you were looking for.


caco
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reply to Jodokast96

Better yet, type the correct freaking web address and yahtzee, no problems.
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birdfeedr
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reply to Jodokast96

said by Jodokast96:

Why go through all of that. Just use different DNS servers. They don't lock you into theirs.
The redirection finally hit here. I've been checking it off and on since the topic first came up earlier this summer.

While I know that the Actiontec router for FIOS customers can use different DNS addresses, it's not yet clear how the average joe is going to be able to make the change.

And, what would you suggest they be changed to? Level3's DNS addresses?

Added: Opting out takes you to this page with instructions for changing settings in the Router. Verizon has the instructions for all their routers. »netservices.verizon.net/portal/l···uct=fios

Instructions are to change the last octet of the DNS settings to .14


Jodokast96
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All but only the oldest of Verizons modems can change the DNS servers. Or you can simply set it in your pc's networking options. As to what to use? Some have said the 4.2.2.x servers are re-directing, but I'm not seeing it. Or you can use your own »www.ntcanuck.com


Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
reply to birdfeedr

They could just opt-out.



Jodokast96
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said by Ahrenl:

They could just opt-out.
Oh the horror! Perish the thought!


AnonProxy
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reply to Jodokast96

Again for my example:
Let us say you work at an office and can not "opt out" as you do not have control of the router and you can not change your IP settings on your local machine to chose a specific DNS server (due to policy). A real example of WHY people would not be able to use another DNS service. Would doing a host file change work or not?

As well a blanket statement like "ohhh yeah you will get a better results from a third party DNS", is foolish at best.
You are in no position to judge that for everyone, everywhere, nor do you have enough long term performance metrics to prove that. I am looking for real facts, not just some feel good speculation or marketing from the companies providing alternative DNS services, do you have those?
Can you back the statement that you will be better off with a DNS service from a third party over Verizon with performance metrics?



Jodokast96
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I don't know whether a host file change would work or not, but in a work environment, that's for them to decide if they want to use Verizon's DNS servers or not, not the end user. That situation is truly a who the f*** cares. It affects the end user personally in no way.

I can only back it from personal experience, but try them for yourself. You'll see.



Combat Chuck
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reply to AnonProxy

said by AnonProxy:

Can you host file the referred to web page and re-redirect the request?
Yes, as long as it always redirects to reasonably small set of hosts.

Some routers allow you to override URL's too.
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Combat Chuck
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reply to birdfeedr

said by birdfeedr:

While I know that the Actiontec router for FIOS customers can use different DNS addresses, it's not yet clear how the average joe is going to be able to make the change.
The average joe isn't going to care. The bottom line is that anyone that finds this an issue either already knows how to counter it, or has the skills to find out how to counter.
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