said by gaforces :

If they are allowed to do this, whats to stop them from going further?
Dictate the browser, OS, or hardware manufacturer?
Make you stop using popup blocker or other security?
After all, it's for the good of the network :P

said by Jodokast96 :

Don't like what they do, don't use their DNS servers. They aren't forcing you to do or use anything.

said by Jodokast96 :

If you don't like it, don't use their servers. Pretty simple.

said by Jodokast96 :

But it is not having any effect at all on what you or anybody else does.

said by Jodokast96 :


If you don't like it, don't use their servers. Pretty simple.

said by Jodokast96 :

So tell me then, what the effect is?

said by S_engineer :

They will bring net-neutrality regs upon themselves. Then everyone will lose.... except of course the CEOs ...and Haliburton!

said by Jodokast96 :

But what about the (as someone else put it) technologically ignorant?

said by Jodokast96 :

Don't like what they do, don't use their DNS servers. They aren't forcing you to do or use anything.

said by nixen :

If they're trying these "services" as something "optional" now, it's only a matter of time until they aren't an option.

said by Combat Chuck :

Please!!! The problem with the slippery slope argument is it can validly be taken all the way back to the other end of ridiculousness. If this is an issue because it leads to forced redirects then you know what, lets go all the way back and say it's bad for Verizon to offer internet service at all because if they're offering internet service now it's only a matter of time until they force redirect DNS requests to their servers.

Or we could, you know, wait for them to actually force redirects before accusing them of doing it.

said by nixen :

I've worked for Verizon (and MCI and Bell Atlantic). Unfortunately, I can tell you, it's not like the PHB's didn't periodically ask whether such redirection could be done.

But, hey, keep on thinking that the guys in the suits are "on your side".

said by Combat Chuck :

Quite frankly for any valid reason you can come up with pointing to this being a problem, I can come up with a valid reason why Verizon would see this as a useful to their customers; the fact that the bad domain error message most browsers throw up is somewhat confusing and likely results in a significant number of support calls incorrectly thinking it's a Verizon problem being just one of them.

said by Combat Chuck :

The issue is that the majority of the people here will suspend all logic to take whatever opinion it is that makes any large company look bad.

said by nixen :

That said, my particular beef comes from what I've observed having worked Verizon and for the various companies that now make up Verizon. In other words, I'm familiar with the mindset of the company - and it is a long-standing corporate mind-set.