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TheMadAdmin

join:2007-10-24
Matawan, NJ

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Not Liking this

this is a business. No ethical thought was put into it weather it was right or wrong.

Yes it is wrong. They have changed the way the internet works at it's base, stealing traffic for their own site.

Also once this step is made they can take the next step and redirect traffic away from sites it doesn't want people getting to.... Smart business choice but ethically bankrupt.

»themadadmin.com/wp/?p=1035 (Post on it.)

TheMadAdmin (Dave)


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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You have a good point, this is a fact of life in the internet porno world. Type in a wrong URL and you get sucked in and the only defense you have is Firefox which gives you more control over this sort of thing.
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Eat pork chops for Allah!



swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia

I assume you mean that you get something unwanted - ads, popups - when you mistype the intended URL. But that's not because anyone's monkeying with DNS. Instead it's entrepreneurs (well, typo-squatters) who really own the similar domains. DNS is returning correct results, they're just not what you wanted.

This is different because Verizon is having their DNS servers return an IP address of their ad server (which is false; their ad server's IP does not really belong to the typed URL) when the true reply would be "no such domain".


TheMadAdmin

join:2007-10-24
Matawan, NJ

reply to Transmaster
Yeah,

But that is the next step to "protect people".

Then it is an easy jump to "Manage Information" where they choose if you find info about something like Verizon. How long before they redirect DSLREPORTS.com? They don't like it, they control the DNS. They redirect you.

They shouldn't mess with the fundamentals of the internet.



Jodokast96
Stupid people really piss me off.
Premium
join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ
kudos:2

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And everything that any person or company does can be made into an "easy jump" to anything and everything. My God, they make you give them your address. The next logical step is that a bruiser will be standing over you making sure you don't switch providers now that they know where you live? Ridiculous? Totally, yet people will spew stuff like that. If they wanted to do total redirects of legitimate traffic, they would just do it. This is not going to condition people to accept that crap at any point in the future. You can all cry bitch and moan, and you will change nothing about this. It's not illegal, barely unethical, and totally greedy, nothing more. You have every choice to do whatever you want, they are not taking that away from you.



Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

reply to swhx7
Yes I used the porno as a example of how it might look from the person sitting in front of a computer.
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Eat pork chops for Allah!


ross7

join:2000-08-16

reply to Jodokast96

said by Jodokast96:

And everything that any person or company does can be made into an "easy jump" to anything and everything. My God, they make you give them your address. The next logical step is that a bruiser will be standing over you making sure you don't switch providers now that they know where you live? Ridiculous? Totally, yet people will spew stuff like that. If they wanted to do total redirects of legitimate traffic, they would just do it. This is not going to condition people to accept that crap at any point in the future. You can all cry bitch and moan, and you will change nothing about this. It's not illegal, barely unethical, and totally greedy, nothing more. You have every choice to do whatever you want, they are not taking that away from you.
Yet...

Jeff_Dallas

join:2007-11-05

reply to TheMadAdmin
They were redirecting www.linuxquestions.org yesterday. I also got redirects from www.google.com and www.cloudynights.com. All of these are valid addresses but instead I got the Verizon Search page sponsored by Yahoo.



en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

reply to Jodokast96
If I have an application that relies on proper functioning DNS through nslookup / gethostbyname, and it now fails to return a 404 on an incorrect domain vs. VZ pushing out a non expected result (i.e. the domain doesn't exist, but VZ gives a response stating it is, then VZ has some serious liability issues to deal with.

Eg.
> sdfgj9sd.com
Server: dns2.dslextreme.com
Address: 66.51.206.100

*** dns2.dslextreme.com can't find sdfgj9sd.com: Non-existent host/domain

Having that come back with a valid IP address is WRONG!
It is NOT valid DNS if the response is not valid.
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TheMadAdmin

join:2007-10-24
Matawan, NJ

Good point.

You are right applications are expecting the 404.

Link checkers are going to get fooled because nothing will error out.


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