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| reply to Jodokast96
Re: Bad juju
said by Jodokast96  :Don't like what they do, don't use their DNS servers. They aren't forcing you to do or use anything. this is my favorite line as it places the blame on technologically ignorant consumers. it makes Verizon look like it actually cares about consumers when it cares more about money. if they really cared about consumers it would be opt-in . |
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Jodokast96
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·Verizon Online DSL
| Should it be opt-in, sure, why not. But it is not having any effect at all on what you or anybody else does. Hell, 90% of the addresses I mistype anyway has already been taken by 3rd parties doing the same thing. Is it greedy? Absolutely. Unethical? Eh. And they did send notice that they were doing this. Of all of the crap for people to cry about, this isn't one of them. If you don't like it, don't use their servers. Pretty simple. |
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| said by Jodokast96 :If you don't like it, don't use their servers. Pretty simple. as i just said, no it isn't. not for the tech ignorant, which is most of their customers. |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
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said by Jodokast96 : But it is not having any effect at all on what you or anybody else does. And you would know this definitively because?
said by Jodokast96 : If you don't like it, don't use their servers. Pretty simple. That is beautiful advice to suggest to those of us who know better and know that there are other DNS servers out there to use. But what about the (as someone else put it) technologically ignorant?
Given what we already know about providers, it is fairly accurate to state that if they're given a millimeter, they'll take ten thousand miles. This particular matter is no exception to that evidence. |
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Jodokast96
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| So tell me then, what the effect is? Are they redirecting you to to another page in place of the one you typed? No. The page you typed doesn't exist. So instead you're sent to a search page, and told the page you were looking for wasn't found. This is nothing more than a money grab.
As for the technoloically ignorant, they won't know the difference anyway. This is exactly the type of person it can give some help to. Maybe next they'll spell the site right. |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| said by Jodokast96 :So tell me then, what the effect is? Clearly, you don't see any big deal about a DNS redirect and bury your head in the sand accordingly, but I'm wondering what other seemingly innoucuous avenue ripe for a "money grab" will the provider take next. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| Agreed, the "honor" system providers once semi-adhered to with the networks is out the window. They will bring net-neutrality regs upon themselves. Then everyone will lose.... except of course the CEOs ...and Haliburton!
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Where have the adults gone? |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
| said by S_engineer : They will bring net-neutrality regs upon themselves. Then everyone will lose.... except of course the CEOs ...and Haliburton! NN will benefit anyone with an Internet connection. In fact, every org across the spectrum is on board with NN. I'm not sure where Halliburton comes into play in the NN discussion unless they have become a provider. |
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massysett
join:2006-01-04
Silver Spring, MD
| reply to SilverSurfer
said by Jodokast96 :But what about the (as someone else put it) technologically ignorant? The technologically ignorant won't care. They might even find this useful. The technologically sophisticated, who want a "clean net" or whatever, can opt out or use different DNS servers.
Bunch of hoopla over nothing. |
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Jodokast96
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1 edit | You could at least quote the right person.  |
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Juana Diaz, PR | reply to massysett
I agree. For most people a page like that is far more useful than a cryptic "Page cannot be displayed" or "DNS error". It isn't like they are redirecting legitimate addresses to their own servers. |
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Jeff_Dallas
join:2007-11-05 | Yes, they are. Thats the part that bothers me. I am randomly getting their site on properly-formed addresses that obviously exits like www.google.com |
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