 pokesphIt Is Almost FastPremium
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1 edit | install fires Hmm.. why aren't the Verizon installers checking where the drill (screw/cut/poke) first? Come on.. it's pretty basic.. install-101 even. (look before you leep..) plan your installation, check for obstructions, etc..
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1 edit | Re: insatall fires said by pokesph:Hmm.. why aren't the Verizon installers checking where the drill (screw/cut/poke) first? Come on.. it's pretty basic.. install-101 even. (look before you leep..) plan your installation, check for obstructions, etc.. Do these installers have ANY professional training? Do you recommend they use X-Ray vision goggles to see what wires lurk behind sheetrock or on the other side of framing members? Even sensors that claim to alert you to wires behind walls aren't always usable depending on where you're fishing cable. With the right equipment (4 foot "Versabit" I believe) it's possible to drill far from where you can fit your hand to even use such as sensor.
Wish I had such X-ray vision or ESP to give myself a 0% chance of ever hitting something unexpected when fishing cable in my house. |
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| said by myokitis:Do you recommend they use X-Ray vision goggles to see what wires lurk behind sheetrock or on the other side of framing members? Even sensors that claim to alert you to wires behind walls aren't always usable depending on where you're fishing cable. With the right equipment (4 foot "Versabit" I believe) it's possible to drill far from where you can fit your hand to even use such as sensor. Wish I had such X-ray vision or ESP to give myself a 0% chance of ever hitting something unexpected when fishing cable in my house. I recommend they do something instead of risking this type of damage. This is not normal or acceptable.
How would anyone like having to stay in a hotel or with family while waiting on a contractor's insurance company to get on the ball and pay for fixing a major issue.
They don't need to have X-Ray goggles. They need to have common sense. Like, is it possible there may be wiring near where they are drilling? Even if they use some of the tools that are not so accurate, they still may find obvious wires in the wall.
And if the wire wasn't where it should have been in the first place, then perhaps it is not their fault, and could be the fault of the original electrical installer, or it could be a bad install by the homeowner/landlord himself. |
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Re: insatall fires said by myokitis:said by pokesph:Hmm.. why aren't the Verizon installers checking where the drill (screw/cut/poke) first? Come on.. it's pretty basic.. install-101 even. (look before you leep..) plan your installation, check for obstructions, etc.. Do these installers have ANY professional training? Do you recommend they use X-Ray vision goggles to see what wires lurk behind sheetrock or on the other side of framing members? Even sensors that claim to alert you to wires behind walls aren't always usable depending on where you're fishing cable. With the right equipment (4 foot "Versabit" I believe) it's possible to drill far from where you can fit your hand to even use such as sensor. Wish I had such X-ray vision or ESP to give myself a 0% chance of ever hitting something unexpected when fishing cable in my house. This place is starting to get as bad as slashdot. Every one seems to be an electrician or an installer who has never broken a thing.
I have used some of those shitty gadgets and to be honest they barely work at times.
I was running network cables in a 3 million dollar home before and hit a pvc stack pipe with a drill while going through a wall to fish the cable. The folks complained of bad smell for a couple of hours until I punched a bigger hole in the wall and seen I grazed the pvc.
The real issue is that these tools are not good at finding plastic covered materials. Which is probably one of the reasons this guy hit the wire.
They should have had renters insurance and went there. Let the insurance company fight it out with Verizon and save yourself the headache.
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"Like, is it possible there may be wiring near where they are drilling?"
Anything is possible! Who knows what the previous owner(s) have done.
"Even if they use some of the tools that are not so accurate, they still may find obvious wires in the wall."
Did you even read that statement after you wrote it? "obvious wires in the wall" thats a good one!
"And if the wire wasn't where it should have been in the first place, then perhaps it is not their fault, and could be the fault of the original electrical installer, or it could be a bad install by the homeowner/landlord himself."
I've been an installer for 9 years and I have accidentally drilled/cut into wiring on two occasions. Both times there was absolutely no indication that there was wiring where I was drilling. the only way that i could have been 150% sure that there was no obstructions in my way, is to have the homeowner open the walls so that it could be visually inspected. (An pretty unreasonable request in my opinion.) Unfortunatley, accidents happen. Thats why companies, large and small, carry insurance.
Besides, having a handful of incidents like this one over the course of over 1 million installations, I'd say that the installers have a pretty good track record. |
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| What is wrong with you?
Obviously you have a problem with people calling out these horrible problems that contractors have caused with their work.
Don't take it out on me or anyone here. Take it out on the installers that have put this image forth.
Are you personally responsible for destroying someone's home? Would you want to be? Would you want your home destroyed just for the promise of high speed Internet and TV service?
Individuals don't care about statistics. If you are in the "handful" out of 1 million installations, why do you care if it was only a handful?
You seriously don't get the point. Even one home being seriously damaged or destroyed, and then the contractor or Verizon giving the run around is unacceptable. And there should be policies in place. |
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said by BosstonesOwn 
They should have had renters insurance and went there. Let the insurance company fight it out with Verizon and save yourself the headache.
[/BQUOTE :Why should they turn it into their insurance?!? It most likely will result in either increased rates or a loss of policy. If at all possible, never go to your own insurance, |
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 NYR 56Premium
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Smithtown, NY | reply to smcallah
That is so absurd it isn't even funny. You expect these installers to be God and NEVER make a mistake? It's IMPOSSIBLE to ALWAYS know where the wires are and the statistic of how many wires have been hit is VERY relevant, even if you don't want to be in that small percent. I suppose you think we should stop using all vaccines because a handful of people will have serious side effects. |
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What's wrong with me? I believe you threw down the gauntlet first by saying that "they need to have common sense".
I don't have a problem with anybody calling people on the carpet, but I do understand that accidents happen. If the installer drilled through an exposed wire, then shame on him.
I would bet that Verizon looked deeply into this unfortunate incident and if the technician did do something wrong that technician will be dealt with accordingly. They don't take property damage lightly.
If you think I'm taking it out on you, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. Just remember those who throw stones, shouldn't live in glass houses.
*****NYR 56, well said! |
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