Re: Another Issue in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19398996 en Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:31:49 EDT Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:31:49 EDT Re: Another Issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19399990 Camelot One :
said by Nightfall See Profile :

For as much as the RIAA sucks balls, they do advertise and get artists airtime.
This is absolutely true. They are good enough at marketing and promotion that even Britney Spears and those like her are able to sell albums. So in this regard, I can see where the RIAA deserves every penny of the 95% they take from the CD sales. :)
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said by Nightfall See Profile :

Getting your name out there as being a big time musician is not an easy task. Thats not saying this delivery system won't work for everyone though. It will vary. However, how much would some beginning unsigned artist make off this system? Not much probably.
At the same time the overhead will be much less. One of the original purposes for MySpace was a way for unsigned artists to get their music out. Social networking sites such as that one are probably the best way to go. If I finally got off my butt and actually put together an album full of broadcast-worthy songs these are the steps I would take:

- Be prepared to sell a fully produced hard-copy CD. Last I checked it would cost $1-$2 per CD to make high quality pressings with color inserts in small amounts (1000 CDs). Less for a higher stockpile. Get set up with Amazon.com and you're golden.

- Create an eCommerce website to sell the songs for those who want to download. This will also be the official artist's site with message boards, news and all that other stuff potential fans want. I was thinking of offering free downloads at a lower bitrate than the purchased files, but maybe using Radiohead's business model would be a better approach.

- Get crazy with the social networking. Make a MySpace site with streams showcasing my songs along with links to Amazon and my site for purchase. Go to other social networking sites and do what you can on them to promote the album. Probably bug BBR with some shameless promotional plugs in the forums (don't ban me yet BBR) ;)

- Do some local networking with college radio stations and other independent broadcasts that would consider airing my music. This would also include talking to web radio stations. Maybe go to some retail stores that would like playing my music for their customers. Offer all of these outlets royalty-free access to my music to help sweeten the pot.

Will I end up making $6 million? Not likely. But good music has a way of getting around so if my music is any good I will definitely get a return on my investment. If it's really good then we're talking some serious supplemental income. Jeez... why am I not doing this now?!?!?
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\\If a label did offer a contract I would definitely hire a music lawyer and make sure I have my bases covered (details on that would take a whole new post... if not thread).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19399246 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:15:50 EDT Re: Another Issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19399039 Nightfall :
said by SRFireside See Profile :

said by Nightfall See Profile :

How much did Radiohead make from selling their album this way compared to going through a label? That is what they should be focusing on.
Nothing official has been released just yet, but speculation puts the sales figure at least around $6 million. If they are keeping all of the proceeds then Radiohead really came out ahead since album royalties hover around $1-$2 (depending on copyright ownership of the songs, length of song, number of tracks, etc) with the record label keeping the rest.

On top of that record labels tend to tag on production and promotional costs on their contracts, which means the label gets a lion's share of the profits while at the same time taking the artist's share of the album royalties. Essentially they are getting paid back their costs to produce (sometimes even promote) the record by the artist.

If Radiohead did all of their own production and distribution on this little project (which can't be more than a million... and that's a gross over-estimation) then they definitely netted more on this than with the label. On top of all that Radiohead will still get their share of the album sales from the label when the physical disk is released.

The cheapskates got their free album with no fear of copyright infringement, the band got millions of dollars from the people who like supporting the artist, fans got to buy the album at a price they felt was fair, the record label got zilch. It's a win/win :D
It will be interesting to see how unsigned artists do with this. For as much as the RIAA sucks balls, they do advertise and get artists airtime. Radiohead is popular because of their past popularity.

Getting your name out there as being a big time musician is not an easy task. Thats not saying this delivery system won't work for everyone though. It will vary. However, how much would some beginning unsigned artist make off this system? Not much probably.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19399039 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:41:11 EDT Re: Another Issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19398996 SRFireside :
said by Nightfall See Profile :

How much did Radiohead make from selling their album this way compared to going through a label? That is what they should be focusing on.
Nothing official has been released just yet, but speculation puts the sales figure at least around $6 million. If they are keeping all of the proceeds then Radiohead really came out ahead since album royalties hover around $1-$2 (depending on copyright ownership of the songs, length of song, number of tracks, etc) with the record label keeping the rest.

On top of that record labels tend to tag on production and promotional costs on their contracts, which means the label gets a lion's share of the profits while at the same time taking the artist's share of the album royalties. Essentially they are getting paid back their costs to produce (sometimes even promote) the record by the artist.

If Radiohead did all of their own production and distribution on this little project (which can't be more than a million... and that's a gross over-estimation) then they definitely netted more on this than with the label. On top of all that Radiohead will still get their share of the album sales from the label when the physical disk is released.

The cheapskates got their free album with no fear of copyright infringement, the band got millions of dollars from the people who like supporting the artist, fans got to buy the album at a price they felt was fair, the record label got zilch. It's a win/win :D ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19398996 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:35:16 EDT Re: Another Issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19398677 moonpuppy :
said by Nightfall See Profile :

How much did Radiohead make from selling their album this way compared to going through a label? That is what they should be focusing on.
Probably more than if they went through traditional channels because everyone wants a piece of the action even before the album hits the store shelves. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19398677 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:39:54 EDT Re: Another Issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19398655 The Beer : And the downloaded it at home, wen't to work downloaded it again....

Came home, lost the first download so downloaded it again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19398655 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:35:11 EDT Re: Another Issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19398576 Nightfall :
said by raythompsontn See Profile :

The numbers also do not take into account those that downloaded, did not like the music, and thus did not want to pay. They may have removed the music from their system.
Then you have the people who downloaded it, liked the music, and didn't want to pay.

Either way, the main thing here is...

How much did Radiohead make from selling their album this way compared to going through a label? That is what they should be focusing on.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19398576 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:19:08 EDT Another Issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19398561 raythompsontn : The numbers also do not take into account those that downloaded, did not like the music, and thus did not want to pay. They may have removed the music from their system.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19398561 Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:16:22 EDT