AT&T Piracy Filters Tread Dangerous Ground > Before everyone gets their boxers in a bunch

Before everyone gets their boxers in a bunch

They'll just ban encryption on their network or degrade it... If they can find a way to identify pirated content getting around pesky checks and balances like encryption, vpn ssh, etc is a walk in the park./tin foil hat off. Take this at least partially seriously.

reply to danclan
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Privacy - that was so 19th century......

Using encrypted technologies is a dead give away that you are doing something illegal.
They will simply block all encrypted data.
If you don't have anything to hide...so why are you using encrytion?
Soon the only way to surf the net will be totally naked with a blind fold.

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Yeah - I'll just put my SSN, and bank account info into a non SSL / HTTPS bank web site.
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reply to grandpinaple
Yeah right. If they ban encryption they will lose subscribers by the truck load. I wouldn't be surprised to see them lose 5-10% inside of 3 months of doing this.

VPN is a key legitimate use of encryption that all kinds of people use to do work from home.

Normal people would get their pitch forks over something like this.

reply to grandpinaple
From »www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/08···plosion/ :

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Neil Armstrong, products director at BT-owned ISP PlusNet, said: "It isn't possible for us to tell if a customer is downloading a copyright file or not unless we specifically 'snoop' every packet on the customer's line.

"We would obviously only do this where we have a proper request from the relevant legal authority to do so, and even then it is unlikely we would be able to see inside encrypted payloads."

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The rapid acceleration in encryption isn't limited to BitTorrenters. Estimates say torrent traffic accounts for about between 50 and 60 per cent of all file-sharing. Usenet, which the RIAA recently said is a bigger offender than Kazaa-type services, accounts for about another 25 per cent. It's set to see more scrambled files shared over it, too, as providers including Giganews now offer SSL encryption.

Paul Sanders, part of the team of music and ISP veterans behind PlayLouder [said] "I think this trend is absolutely a warning to those people in the music industry who believe they can win this war"

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reply to grandpinaple
There is no REASONABLE reason to get around encryption. They would be violating privacy issue for the customers. What we do is NONE of the "dumb pipe's" business.

Ah, but that assumes a dumb pipe. If their is a need for large scale encryption in the situation we are talking about it is already not an unfiltered pipe.

reply to averagedude
You mean all this time I was supposed to be wearing clothes?

reply to batterup
No one has expressed interest in control of trolling and if they have they are the minority. Spam is and always will be a problem. People have more or less accepted this. People want the ISP to control spam, but I don't see how that relates to dumb pipes so please elaborate. Oh and list the other controls users want so I can specifically answer them.

reply to Thaler

The people that bitch about Usenet are 1 percent of percent of percent. The people who bitch about spam want it stopped within reason. I'm not sure who is bitching and why about port scanning, but if it it's anything like the other two examples you gave it also is not as extreme as you make it out to be.

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reply to averagedude
Would you like to buy from ebay or amazon with encryption when entering in your social security and credit card numbers. I think they will get sued to death if this happens. Its an invasion of privacy and theres a law that says that any isp blocking access to features or future growth of the net is going against the law. They would be stupid to do this. Hope they pay big time if they do this. You can't kill something bad without taking out part of the good crowd to. Piracy has been happening since the dawn of time with music and all types of stuff. Music and images never had copyright back than either. It was actually encouraged to get someones music in the 19th century and improve on it. Now you can't do jack because people are so dam greedy. I bet if copyright laws were less restrictive we would have gotten like 1GB internet already with super cheap computers and parts. We would be advancing so fast we wouldn't even remember the time we hit 600mhz cpu. I think its all scam with at&t practically.

Without encryption i meant