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N9MD
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join:2005-10-08
Wayne, NJ
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| reply to DigitalPure
Re: The FCC has expanded LNP to VOIP
said by DigitalPure  :said by GoHardGoDeep :Ummm.. VOIP companies were never able to hold you hostage. VOIP companies don't own the numbers. They are basically just renting them from people like Level 3, Verizon, etc.... Correct, ... Incorrect ... as I see it. Until the FCC mandated VoIP-porting ruling is confirmed, a VoIP provider has not been required to release your DID#. The provider leases blocks of numbers from one or more CLECs. Thus, so long as the provider is willing to pay the monthly charge to the CLEC for holding the number (even if it is not being used), the CLEC cannot arbitrarily move your number to another provider. That would be like your landlord renting your apartment to another individual even though you hold a current lease on the space.
I, for one, am very pleased with the pending FCC ruling. It removes the potential angst for those porting from place to place (often more than once for the same number) due to the vagueries and unpredictability of the VoIP arena. | |
DigitalPure
join:2007-06-08
Maple Plain, MN
| reply to GoHardGoDeep
said by GoHardGoDeep :Ummm.. VOIP companies were never able to hold you hostage. VOIP companies don't own the numbers. They are basically just renting them from people like Level 3, Verizon, etc. They don't control who has them, or anything like that. They are at the mercy of the carrier to give them the telephone call. This is actually better for people wanting to come to VOIP. This means that people like Verizon, Qwest, and SBC can't try to be jerks about their porting by asking for more information than necessary just because you are going to voip. They have to play the same way with VOIP companies as they would with the other Telco Companies. Correct, since the carriers make money on each and every call, and providing the services to the end provider they hate to loose a number. Think about this, the big bells used to own the numbers, and now we have IP carriers that own numbers, and everyone has to pay a fee to a central location to know who has what number now. If you take a number away from a carrier you just cost them about $1-5.00 a month in revenue. Multiply this by the mas numbers of people moving numbers around and you can see where this is a massive issue.
So when someone says that X comapany was told by Y that X is holding the number from being ported, it is just them trying to make the other company look bad since they cannot do anything to speed up the carrier releasing the number. It also might be that they dont want to pay the $10-40.00 fee to get the number transfered to their trunk group from the carrier.
90% of the time the hold up is the carrier not wanting to loose the fee. 8% of the time it is the new provider not wanting to pay the outrageous transfer fees some of the carrier charge. The last 2% is the customer not providing the correct documentation of proof of ownership, or there being some service or stop on the line that prevents the transfer.
So, what can you do, call your new provider, and call your old provider and ask them to talk to each other. What you will hear is that BOTH sides will say "It is being proccessed, we will let you know when it is done".... have your new provider hang the phone up with the old provider, and then tell the new provider you would like them to check with the carrier and the NPAC about the LNP and see what is taking so long. Lastly remember that the carriers have up to 30 days to transfer the number, and there is NOTHING that you can do about it. If they want to hold the number, then tough luck. Don't believe me, go and read the rules from the NPAC yourself. | |
bohemian
join:2007-06-05
New Brunswick, NJ | reply to GoHardGoDeep
I am still trying to port Teleblend number to other VoIP phone company. It is more than a month now. I have been paying bills to both phone companies for last 2 bills. Hopefully, this will solve my problem.
Thanks. | |
GoHardGoDeep
join:2007-07-18
Rio Rancho, NM
| reply to ADIOS TELEBLEND
Ummm.. VOIP companies were never able to hold you hostage. VOIP companies don't own the numbers. They are basically just renting them from people like Level 3, Verizon, etc. They don't control who has them, or anything like that. They are at the mercy of the carrier to give them the telephone call.
This is actually better for people wanting to come to VOIP. This means that people like Verizon, Qwest, and SBC can't try to be jerks about their porting by asking for more information than necessary just because you are going to voip. They have to play the same way with VOIP companies as they would with the other Telco Companies. | |
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