Re: DNS opt out is flawed in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19412232 en Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:54:50 EDT Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:54:50 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19418494 batterup :
said by fiberguy See Profile :



.. and I'm very happy... Sorry.. unlike some, I'm far from sitting in the rusted out jeep in my front yard, on blocks, with my metal army hat on, a whip, bottle of whiskey in one hand, while shouting at the kids to get a haircut and get off my yard while telling them they won't make something of themselves...
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There is this small group of so-called internet pioneer warriors that think they are going to gain a victory for the masses when all they are doing is messing things up for the majority.

Can I have a ride in your jeep and a swig from your jug there Bubba?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19418494 Sat, 10 Nov 2007 13:08:13 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19418360 fiberguy : Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you... except I would have ended at "You are one of the unhappiest people.. "

I just don't understand why ou jump in every thread with the same one topic post.. who's weeping and ? who wanted bell in one piece other than you?

I sometimes wonder if you were one of those old time telephone execs from AT&T who had life set for himself and then everything pulled out from under you when the government pulled out the rug from under your cushy lifestyle.

I just don't get it..

.. and I'm very happy... Sorry.. unlike some, I'm far from sitting in the rusted out jeep in my front yard, on blocks, with my metal army hat on, a whip, bottle of whiskey in one hand, while shouting at the kids to get a haircut and get off my yard while telling them they won't make something of themselves...
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said by sporkme See Profile :

Gone are the days of double-digit long distance, phone rentals, and all that other "good stuff". Sniff...
So you got what you want enjoy.

I am sure it is totally a coincidence that the US of A has fallen mightily compared to the rest of the world sense the murder of Ma. The pipe provide no longer innovates, the pipe provider now hustles and sues. Enjoy your new standard and place in the world.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19417735 Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:37:42 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19417718 batterup :
said by fiberguy See Profile :



Evolve!
You are one of the unhappiest people yet you have what you want. I guess some people will be unhappy no matter what.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19417718 Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:33:01 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19415498 rcdailey : It's essentially the same as if you had used a search engine to find the link, but if it's not your choice to do that, then that's not such a good thing.

The point about breaking the way DNS is supposed to work, changing it so that the standard error page doesn't display, seems valid. If local applications depend on that error page in order to work properly, then that would become a real headache if the provider simply changes things without notification or without permitting an opt out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19415498 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:08:17 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19414015 fiberguy : Gone are the days of 35 cent per minute long distance. Gone are the days of the monopolistic mentality of the phone company. Gone are the days of over priced, and low quality dial tone. Gone are the days of expensive setup fees to change a feature. Gone are the days of mandatory phone rentals. Gone are the days of 25 day installation appointments. Gone are the days of no choice. Gone are the days of "We don't care, we're the phone company, we don't have to"...

Yea... the good old days.

Every time there is a topic and you jump in, you keep posting this non-sense about how Ma-Bell was the saviour to all that is good and ever has been and that people are bitching because it's gone. In case you were asleep, the people wanted it gone and no one has looked back.

Evolve!
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"Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and I’m told it’s a woman’s prerogative..."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19414015 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:58:41 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19413944 sporkme :
said by batterup See Profile :

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Gone are the days when the pipe provider made a country from sea to shinning sea possible. Gone are the days when the pipe provider will discover the sound of the beginning of he universe.
Gone are the days of double-digit long distance, phone rentals, and all that other "good stuff". Sniff...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19413944 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:45:00 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19413831 batterup :
said by sporkme See Profile :

Don't worry though, I'm sure that a 3rd party overbuilder will spring up out of nowhere and provide "real" internet any day now.
When we had one provider we did not have this B.S. The more providers the greater the B.S. to hustle a buck with a smaller customer base.

Gone are the days when the pipe provider made a country from sea to shinning sea possible. Gone are the days when the pipe provider will discover the sound of the beginning of he universe.

Ma Bell is dead and yet the people bitch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19413831 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:27:36 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19413762 DotMac4 : Doesn't matter why they do it, DNS redirection still breaks stuff and ISPs should leave their mitts off standards. Stop port blocking, stop redirects, stop pissing with everything. The fact that they're doing it to make a quick buck just makes it that much lamer.

And OpenDNS is fine...people CHOOSE to do it and that's great...that's opting in. If Verizon, Cox, Time Warner and the like want to offer the same, so be it, let them offer it but not auto-enroll everyone in it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19413762 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:17:17 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19413453 NOCMan :
said by en102 See Profile :

True, but that should be done by TWC, I shouldn't have to mess with my DNS settings to obtain valid DNS results... This isn't AOL, afterall.
Not defending them, but anyone who this would break their applications probably tend to run their own dns servers.

Course what happens when they start redirecting traffic for valid sites on accident or due to a network problem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19413453 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:35:25 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19413374 emptywig : Redirect is still redirect.

wig]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19413374 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:23:05 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19412577 sporkme :
said by en102 See Profile :

This isn't AOL, afterall.
But the duopoly does want to turn "your" internet into a lovely AOL-esque walled garden.

Don't worry though, I'm sure that a 3rd party overbuilder will spring up out of nowhere and provide "real" internet any day now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19412577 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:06:35 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19412326 JRKy : But you can customize the OpenDNS redirection to your own company logos and text. They don't redirect to advertise.
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said by DotMac4 See Profile :

OpenDNS uses redirection too.

»www.opendns.com/features/guide/
But you can opt out of it if you sign up as a free user:
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Just leave the typo correction boxes unchecked and the usual server not found error pops up..
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19412316 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:16:40 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19412232 DotMac4 : OpenDNS uses redirection too.

»www.opendns.com/features/guide/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19412232 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:01:08 EDT Re: DNS opt out is flawed http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19412231 en102 : True, but that should be done by TWC, I shouldn't have to mess with my DNS settings to obtain valid DNS results... This isn't AOL, afterall.
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Technically speaking, shouldn't this be and 'opt-in', as its breaking apps that truly rely on DNS to function properly.
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