 hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium
join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
kudos:1 | greed Yet another anti-consumer trick.
Why is it that companies make "YOU" jump though hoops?
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 Jodokast96Stupid people really piss me off.Premium
join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ
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1 edit | said by hopeflicker:Yet another anti-consumer trick. Why is it that companies make "YOU" jump though hoops? Because enough people are willing to. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to hopeflicker
Because you are paying for their product and fall under their ToS. |
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hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium
join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
kudos:1 | This just reinforces my anti-consumer mentality 
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Based on your mentality then, if a company attempts to make money, they're anti-consumer? |
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hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium
join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
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1 edit | said by openbox9:Based on your mentality then, if a company attempts to make money, they're anti-consumer? No. Never said that. Those that make their customers jump though hoops, especially for something like this, I deem anti-consumer. They are taking advantage of teh general population knowing that a high percentage will never know about this "OP OUT" option.
Same goes to all of those companies that force people into contracts.
When you can't compete with the competition, force your customers into 2 year contracts. (2yr contracts seem to be the norm today)
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Jodokast96Stupid people really piss me off.Premium
join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ
kudos:2 | Chances are the ones that would even care would be aware of the Opt-Out. The vast majority that could care less don't need it. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to hopeflicker
said by hopeflicker:Those that make their customers jump though hoops, especially for something like this, I deem anti-consumer. They are taking advantage of teh general population knowing that a high percentage will never know about this "OP OUT" option. You mean like almost every single company that when you do business with them, they provide you with their "privacy statement"? I'm of the mindset that we're adults and therefore responsible for our actions. If we can't/won't read contracts or the ToS, then it's bad on us. Besides, in most cases, I wouldn't call the necessary opt-out actions, "jumping through hoops". Typically, such actions require responding to an e-mail or clicking a button or two on a website. Not rocket science. |
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hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium
join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
kudos:1 | said by openbox9:said by hopeflicker:Those that make their customers jump though hoops, especially for something like this, I deem anti-consumer. They are taking advantage of teh general population knowing that a high percentage will never know about this "OP OUT" option. You mean like almost every single company that when you do business with them, they provide you with their "privacy statement"? I'm of the mindset that we're adults and therefore responsible for our actions. If we can't/won't read contracts or the ToS, then it's bad on us. Besides, in most cases, I wouldn't call the necessary opt-out actions, "jumping through hoops". Typically, such actions require responding to an e-mail or clicking a button or two on a website. Not rocket science. All of those TOS/EULA's are written in lawyer speak. Do you think a good majority of the population understands this?
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hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium
join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
kudos:1 | reply to Jodokast96
said by Jodokast96:Chances are the ones that would even care would be aware of the Opt-Out. The vast majority that could care less don't need it. But this sets a precedent to other ISP's that it's OK to hinder the function of some applications and tools.
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to hopeflicker
There's only a couple of sections that really matter, and for the most part, they're fairly easy to read. |
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OMG, you are obviously a shill... |
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There's an honorable way to make money, and then there is trying to trick people into giving you some money. |
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Look, consumers who don't agree with this kinf of crap are between a rock and a hard place. This is kind of like, "Well, if you don't like the ToS if the electric company, you can do without it, riiiight?" |
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said by hopeflicker:But this sets a precedent to other ISP's that it's OK to hinder the function of some applications and tools. And the majority of people don't use these apps and tools that rely on DNS queries to return NX for non-existent domains. So they won't care.
And that is sadly all the providers care about.
But like has been said, if you are dependent on the apps and tools that require proper working DNS, then you probably know how to run your own caching DNS server or use a 3rd party server and can get along just fine. A user like this would notice immediately that DNS queries are being answered for NX domains, and would work to remedy the issue.
A user that just thinks it's a new domain not found page will not really care what is happening. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to jjeffeory
Yep, except it's not the electric company, it's not regulated, and you do have a choice to change providers...or do without. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | reply to jjeffeory
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