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 sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM join:2000-07-01 Morristown, NJ Reviews:
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Re: Caps and pay-by-byte is just around the corner said by fiberguy:Boy did you just rear your ugly socialist little head, Karl. ...says the guy that railed against name-calling earlier
said by fiberguy:It's all about new boats huh? Seriously... jealous of those who worked hard and earned something? I suppose anyone that does work hard to get where they are should give it up so you can have cheaper broadband? See, here's what I love about your posts. Let's lay out how we get to pot-kettle-black territory:
-You claim DTV is in the wrong with this because they are getting "free" bandwidth, since they'll only be paying a ton of cash to whomever their transit providers are. They make money on the VOD service, they pay their transit providers to deliver the bandwidth to customers, they pay the copyright owners for the showing.
-You then state that you are an "ISP" and a "datacenter" with 3 whole connections. You also state quite clearly that you only do hosting and don't do any access. As someone who's also in the business, I can describe your traffic as very assymetrical. You send out data that end-users at home or work request and do not receive a large amount of data from customers
-Knowing that these 3 other ISPs that you buy bandwidth from do not generally give it away for free, I think we can assume you pay three bills for transit each month. (hint: consider some access - the way most people bill, you have a bunch of "free" inbound traffic you're leaving on the table - don't thank me, that tip's on the house).
-Looking at the above, it sure looks like you are getting the same "free ride" that DTV is. The only difference is the content you're hosting.
Please explain, Mr. Black Kettle. | | |
|  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | I can see what you are saying however there are two things here.
1) My particular product line is what pretty much built the internet today. My "three whole connections" (Pretty standard redundant connection these days there bud.. ) I pay for the amount of data I transport. My customers are putting their websites on the internet.. they're not running a television network over it.
2) DirecTV is not a "web provider".. they are a TV distributor that wants to move from the direct to home model (ie: satellite beamed) to selling their content over another provider's line.
In my opinion, that's where the difference is.
I'm all for the internet evolving, however, I'm also in belief that the mass majority of home users want to use residential type use.. they don't want to run their televisions over the internet. I don't think the internet is anywhere near ready to handle everything that's being thrown at it - but in time it will.
I personally don't care to see my use deteriorate because some shmow wants to save a nickel (so they think) by getting something over the internet.
Some people think that because it's E-based that it will be cheaper - that's far from true in the long run. Eventually, and very quickly, the cost will go from BnM businesses to the internet. This move on the part of people like DirecTV will only make the internet more expensive for the masses, or, simply limit what people will be able to do with it void of paying expensive overages.
I'd rather let the internet evolve at a pace it can handle rather than going to the phone bill model of a base rate and then per minute charges for long distance. I like having one flat bill for reasonable use. There is this small group of so-called internet pioneer warriors that think they are going to gain a victory for the masses when all they are doing is messing things up for the majority.
Those people should be proud of themselves.. and then tarred and feathered. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |  sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM join:2000-07-01 Morristown, NJ Reviews:
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| said by fiberguy:I can see what you are saying however there are two things here. 1) My particular product line is what pretty much built the internet today. My "three whole connections"  (Pretty standard redundant connection these days there bud.. ) I pay for the amount of data I transport. My customers are putting their websites on the internet.. they're not running a television network over it. So you both pay, you both serve content, but somehow DTV is getting a "free ride" and you are not. ???? | |
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