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The two Democratic politicians behind Friday's bill are Reps. George Miller from California and Ruben Hinojosa of Texas. Miller is chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee and Hinojosa is chairman of the higher education subcommittee.
They said in a press release that the legislation, called the College Opportunity and Affordability Act, or COAA, will be voted on by the full committee next week.
The peer-to-peer sections of COAA appear to be a revision of an amendment originally proposed over the summer by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to his chamber's sweeping higher education reauthorization bill. My, my! It isn't the evil business loving Republicans behind this. It appears that the Dems are repaying all those big campaign contributions from Hollywood.
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said by TKJunkMail  :My, my! It isn't the evil business loving Republicans behind this. It appears that the Dems are repaying all those big campaign contributions from Hollywood. Hollywood has (at least recently) supported the democratic party, both with 'hard' money and 'soft' money. They (as I recall and that includes the so called 'stars') were one of the biggest monetary backers of most of the anti-Bush commercials which was legal since the money did NOT go to a political party and as such was not counted. Somewhere there was a site ( www.opensecrets.org ?) that had a breakdown on who paid whom and how for the various political races and it was interesting to see where the money came from and how it differed from the mainstream media just reporting the 'official' amounts.
Someone once said that Hollywood really was not a big business, it just looks like one. It is more of a special interest group that wields a lot of clout because most people pay attention to it and various parts of the industry is always in our face, one way or another.
Not that the various aspects of Hollywood are not above bribing republicans..........
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as long as Bush and co. threaten to veto and then actually veteo if this is approved, then i'll agree with you. but if he just goes along with it without fighting, Republicans are complicit and share the blame. |
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Sadly, the people in power always get such backing (Democrat or Republican). It's discouraging to say the least, but true. Hollywood isn't going to funnel money to the Republicans, they have no control. Since the Democrats are in charge, their pockets seem to be amply lined in order to pander to such stupidity. As I said before, this country is in a mess, and this is something important to deal with? For pete sakes, I hate politics. |
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Don't fool yourself. Republicans are complicit and share the blame for 95 percent of the mess this country is current in. From the Iraq War, to the Crapped Economy, to the Patriot Act, to the NSA wiretapping. The list goes on. Not to say there weren't some Democratic Support behind such things, but the majority of Nay votes were Democrats. Still, if Bush vetoes this law, I will give the man a bit of credit for SOMETHING POSITIVE. I hope there is a single braincell working in that man's head to know this is a bad law. However, I won't hold out hope, considering his track record. Therefore, my only hope are there are enough Democrats and Republicans in Congress who see this law as being stupid. If not, prepare for the consequences. |
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said by TKJunkMail :My, my! It isn't the evil business loving Republicans behind this. It appears that the Dems are repaying all those big campaign contributions from Hollywood. Heh... I figured as much since the article summary doesn't mention any congressmens' names or party affiliations 
If it were the Republicans backing this bill, it would have been announced in the very first sentence of the summary.
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said by backness :Does it really matter who is responsible for this? or is enough to say its a stupid idea? Yes. If the Republicans were responsible for this, they would be castigated. Since it is the Democrat Party that sponsors this sort of thing, and they are supposedly the "good" party, that makes it OK.
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Pnh chimes in again. Seems you disappeared from the last conversation.... Anyhow, Article Says Democrats in the first sentence, but your attention to details isn't always top notch. If there are a lot of backers, i highly doubt itd list every one, Republican or Democrat. I'm sure both are behind this one. |
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| said by jc100 :Seems you disappeared from the last conversation.... I got tired of talking to the wall.
said by jc100 :Says Democrats in the first sentence, but your attention to details isn't always top notch. Yes, now it does.
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said by TKJunkMail :My, my! It isn't the evil business loving Republicans behind this. It appears that the Dems are repaying all those big campaign contributions from Hollywood. Like there is a difference between the 2.They both exist for the sole purpose of seperating the working class from all but minimally sustaining fruits from their labors.Period.
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said by TKJunkMail :The peer-to-peer sections of COAA appear to be a revision of an amendment originally proposed over the summer by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to his chamber's sweeping higher education reauthorization bill. What's usually not important who proposed the original amendment, unless that was original language. What's much more important is who is responsible for this revision that puts these requirements in. There's your guilty party, if you will.
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said by pnh102 :Yes. If the Republicans were responsible for this, they would be castigated. Since it is the Democrat Party that sponsors this sort of thing, and they are supposedly the "good" party, that makes it OK. ACTUALLY... As this thread PROVES... It's the exact opposite.
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Don't hate politics, just hate the politicians.
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It said it originally... FROM THE START... Simply put, your detail to facts seem to lack, as you pick and choose what you wish to see. As for talking to a wall, you didn't substantiate anything you said. Quite frankly, I proved by all points Christians are more barbaric than Muslims =). I don't see either one of you having anything to refute the fact. It's not talking to a wall when the information is factual. It's called climbing a mountain to try to overcome them. That's why I think you are not enjoying the previous debate. |
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said by pnh102 :said by TKJunkMail :My, my! It isn't the evil business loving Republicans behind this. It appears that the Dems are repaying all those big campaign contributions from Hollywood. Heh... I figured as much since the article summary doesn't mention any congressmens' names or party affiliations If it were the Republicans backing this bill, it would have been announced in the very first sentence of the summary. And, considering they are supposed to be studying, why do they need Torrents? Or gaming? I've seen kids go to college, get average grades (B or lower), and me think, "Why did this person waste my time...and theirs? They spent all this money, got Bs, and think a great job is coming there way?"
Do they block a lot of traffic at your job on the Net? Yes. Well, not at mine. But, 99% of companies do.
College is a job so you can get a really good job not so you can steal music and movies. If companies can block this traffic, colleges should be able to.
Just block it except legal sites. Don't like it, hit the books. That is what you are supposed to be doing anyway.
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LOL... We hate the politicians who get into office and forget to represent those who voted them in.... Then again, at this point, we've still got the lesser of the two evils in office. They just seem to be making some stupid decisions at this point, and I hope this piece of legislation fails. |
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said by jc100 :Quite frankly, I proved by all points Christians are more barbaric than Muslims =). Yes, you keep believing that.
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Personally, I don't care too much about this bill. Of course, copyright infringement is illegal, but then again I do not have much sympathy for Hollywood.
However, if it infuriates the left, then I do hope that Bush signs it into law.
As for students being distracted from studying, that problem usually solves itself. The ones who drop out owing money are still on the hook to pay it back, as student loans cannot be discharged through bankruptcy, so eventually, the lenders in question will be repaid.
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Will do. History has seen Christians Kill over 200,000 in just the last decade and had their hands in murdering around 7-8 million in past 60 years. So I don't see any reason not to. As Stated before.. The Catholic, Methodist, Baptist Church supported Hitler during the Holocaust which ended with 6 million + Dead Jews. The Bosnian Serbs killed 100-200,000 Muslims in mass killings during the Bosnian War. The worst genocide SINCE WW2 in Europe. The IRA has killed 1780 and wounded 25,000 with car bombings, kidnappings, and extortion according to Lost lives. Timothy Mcveigh Killed 800 with his fanatical views, which is no different than any other right wing hate groups. You have the KKK, Aryian Nation, Pat Robertson, and the Late Jerry Falwell who spew / spewed their hatred and continue to do so. Based upon your over generalization that all Muslims are bad, I should assume these entities speak for all Christianity. So quite Frankly, history speaks for itself about Christians and so do the actions of its members. |
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