 RickPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
1 edit | Absolutely..unbelievably... positively..astounding.
Ladies and Gentlemen..here is the tale of two companies.
AT&T..and Comcast.
First..AT&T's statistics
»finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=T
Then...comcasts
»finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=CMCSA
Here's just a few comparisons for you to absorb.
ATT market cap...237.74 Billion
Comcasts....59.56 Billion
ATT's revenue... 104.47 Billion
Comcasts...29.91 Billion
ATT's net profit..10.75B
Comcasts..3.01B
And what Martin and his AL capone gang wants to now do is
to stop Comcast from growing citing their size, dominance..
Lack of programming (LOL!) Prices (LOL! Triple play anyone?)
Martin needs to flat out be kicked out of office for this amazing stunt. |
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| Rick, good stats. There's not a product cable offers that they don't have competition for... Video has Satellite and FiOS/uVerse... Internet has DSL... Phone has the Bells. Everyone wants to call the cable companies a monopoly, all they did was spend their money on PRIVATE infrastructure as opposed to the Bell's who lived off of government subsidies.
What this is really about is Martin wants a-la-carte and he thinks he has found another way to try and do it. Unbelieveable. |
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| Martin is nothing but a telco hack , when the next president nominates the next FCC Chairmen I bet Martin has a big fat salary and a Job for life with the telcos |
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RickPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT | reply to IPingUPing
What I think it's about is AT&T and other telco's lived off govt. subsidies for years returning them to their shareholders instead of putting it into their networks.
Now..all the cable co's investments are paying off.
AT&T is losing hundreds of thousands of landlines per quarter..and has pewverse to show as their desperate attempt to now compete against what comcast and others have.
That's not working so..lets now try to regulate the competition into oblivion instead.
As you say, there has never been so much competition as there is now.
And there is no basis other than what I've described as the REAL reason behind this outrageous move on the part of Martin and his machine gun toting FCC Clan.
The GOOD news is..I doubt this will work.
Comcast and TW will never stand by and let this happen.
They're ready for this fight..and will win it.
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 PureUnacceptable Behaviour
join:2001-05-31
Dallas, TX | I can see it now Comcast and Time Warner will split into separate companies.
When all the bull settles down and rules and regulations change as they always do combine back together like it's no big thing.
Hmm, this sounds oddly familiar.
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Good stats, Rick. |
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Comcast does something undefendable= Rick goes silent
FCC goes after Comcast= Rick kicks into gear tearing AT&T a new one.
It's such a predictable thing. Please tell me you're just running an automated system. |
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Um... AT&T/SBC/Southwestern has been government regulated for many, many years, and that's part of the reason for the slow DSL rollout that fed cable's dominance in HSI. If Cable and the Bells are going to compete, then the government either needs to lift all regulations on the telcos or start regulating cable. Which is the better solution I'll leave for another discussion. |
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Last time i checked AT&T has a huge wireless network and just purchased Cingulars. Comcast is not currently in the mobile phone market. So your numbers and statistics mean absolutely nothing. At least until you can break down what AT&T makes from mobile and cable services then compare it to Comcast's. Also, last time I checked it said cable available to them. I'm willing to bet that cable vs. cable Comcast wins hands down in money made and penetration... That is in the raping of tis customers. |
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said by bogey780:Comcast does something undefendable= Rick goes silent FCC goes after Comcast= Rick kicks into gear tearing AT&T a new one. It's such a predictable thing. Please tell me you're just running an automated system. Rick sets his clock by the timing of your equally biased posts in the opposite camp. Neither BIG CORP camp has the interests of the public in mind, only the amounts they can fleece from them to support inferior over-priced "services". |
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 apeface
join:2000-09-16
Mckinney, TX
kudos:3 | reply to Rick
Ha, you are funny.  |
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I pick and choose when I want to reply as does every other poster. Mine just aren't long-winded and predictable.
I find Rick's amusing as it's quite obsessive. |
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RickPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT | reply to bogey780
said by bogey780:Comcast does something undefendable= Rick goes silent FCC goes after Comcast= Rick kicks into gear tearing AT&T a new one. It's such a predictable thing. Please tell me you're just running an automated system. I'm not here to defend Comcast. My views are my own as a consumer. And, I'm certainly not paid to express them here.
As for the FCC..do you find it odd considering the stats I posted and linked to above that the FCC now would like to limit the size of COMCAST?
Remember, this is the same FCC that approved the AT&T/Bell South deal to create THAT company above I linked to.
Do you see any problems with that? Any really odd favoritism going on?
I sure do. As I think any reasonable person would who views those numbers.
What's going on? I think that quite clearly..the telco's own the FCC.
Martin is in their pockets.
And now..after a decade of AT&T not spending the money on their network..they're getting their ass's kicked every which way but loose..losing customers by the hundreds of thousands every quarter to the cable industry..and has a product as weak as pewverse to show for it.
And..no one's buying it. No one wants it.
Or..so few as to be laughable at this point.
And so..what happens?
This.
Let's simply stop the cable co's from even being able to grow anymore.
You know what? You..and I..as consumers..should stand up against that.
It smells of racketeering to me.
As for me going silent if comcast does something undefendable...provide me with just one example.
I don't recall any..and would say that this is just the straws that some grasp at when you have nothing left in your telco versus cable argument.
Because SURELY..you don't want to be comparing DSL's 3Mb that is really 2.5Mb speeds for 25.00 a month and saying they're the REAL Value against Cable.
You know..things like that.
Honestly..it's just telco that has it all wrong.
In so many ways.
And it's Comcast and other cable co's who are finally making it right.
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Rick, on 2007-11-10 at 15:59:37, said:
...snip...
Here's just a few comparisons for you to absorb.
ATT market cap...237.74 Billion
Comcasts....59.56 Billion
ATT's revenue... 104.47 Billion
Comcasts...29.91 Billion
ATT's net profit..10.75B
Comcasts..3.01B
...snip...
Martin needs to flat out be kicked out of office for this amazing stunt.
Wow... Talk about an apples and oranges comparison...
AT&T's wireless operations account for roughly half of their market cap and revenues with wireline services accounting for the majority of the rest. Comcast pales in comparison to this. Similarly, AT&T's TV operations pale in comparison to Comcast's. If you want to complain about Comcast getting regulated on the CATV front, you should compare their CATV operations to AT&T's TV operations. With AT&T only serving 100k+ at this point you obviously wouldn't have anything interesting to share.
Interestingly enough, your numbers only indicate that each company enjoys a 10% margin in profit/revenue. The market cap numbers only indicate the scale at which each company operates, although again, the target of the regulations is CATV operations, of which AT&T has very little compared to Comcast.
Furthermore, the FCC has broken open competition in the wireline business with UNE requirements (CLECs). I can only imagine how much screaming you'd do if the FCC forced CATV to undergo that ordeal and open up their networks. Or if the FCC instituted a "provider of last resort" requirement for CATV and forced Comcast to suffer the same buildout cost that telco does when someone 30 miles from town orders service.
The only people needing kicked out of anywhere are those biased or uninformed that try to compare two drastically different companies such as you have done here, instead of getting to the real problem which is driving the need for regulation. Basically if Comcast or other cable companies were capable of self-control the regulations wouldn't be required and the regulators wouldn't have a Congress pushing them to do something about "the problem." |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to IPingUPing
said by IPingUPing:What this is really about is Martin wants a-la-carte and he thinks he has found another way to try and do it. Unbelieveable. From my understanding... it's ala cart between the providers.. not to the subscriber in this scam.
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to bogey780
... and your post is purely baseless.
Rick posted facts.. have you? Are you sad that as a telephone fanboy (using a BBR favorite buzz word) are hurt that someone makes sense while not supporting telephone?
wow.
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to GPSrob
Totally not an apples/orange comparison.
Martin, a slave to phone, wants to slap cable back which would allow phone to flourish.
The numbers speak loudly. Cap cable and it simply leaves phone able to grow larger and larger.
Where was Martin to stop the mega mergers of AT&T? I'd say that AT&T covers WAY too much territory which is why they were broken up in the first place.
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| I suppose to conspiracy theorists, everything looks like a conspiracy.
To everyone else it sure looks like the FCC trying to regulate competition into the CATV industry similar to how they did with the Telco industry. Telco is already open wide to all comers, that's why you now have healthy competition from CLECs, VOIP, Cable-phone, etc. There's a reason that telco has been losing access lines year over year, and it's primarily due to competition.
Why should the mergers of AT&T have been prevented? They consolidated the wireless field and didn't do anything to the local wireline field other than bring two separate coverage areas under the same parent company. That's good business as it reduces the required overhead (HR, IT, etc) to run both and greatly increases their purchasing power and ability to win concessions from vendors.
Contrary to your misguided opinion, AT&T was not broken up simply due to their size. US law does not allow for this. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | I'm not sure I'm believing what I'm reading or not..
He wants to put restrictions on cable because it is too big, yet, AT&T has been allowed to grow larger and larger. The numbers speak for themselves.
You fail to see how this is a one sided attack on one industry because another one wants to make it into video. AT&T deserves no pity. AT&T has plenty of resources to wire this nation more than once ... They don't even want to count themselves as a cable/video provider anyway.
I don't see how you can sit here calling me a conspiracy theorist (which is TOTALLY a misplaced attempt to name call) when you sit here unable to see just how one sided the FCC has been.
Cable has spent years advancing from a simple local broadcast neighborhood delivery system to what it is today. Telephone didn't even make an attempt until cable became a threat - and now they cry foul at every turn.
In the future, refrain from calling my "opinions" as "misguided".. don't go there.
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| Hey did you ever find that leak over on the consumerist site yet? Pretty telling tales of comcast woes over there! It's really a good read! Just wondering if you made any progress. |
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