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jmccorm

join:2003-08-17
Tulsa, OK

reply to MarkyD

Re: [OK] Cox doesn't mess with Bittorrent traffic, does it?

said by MarkyD:

I am starting to think that Cox is using Sandvine in a testing phase in certain markets, OKC being one of them.
Actually, I brought up the topic because I suspect that Cox is interfering with my connection.

I recently had the rare need to provide a file to my team via Bittorrent. This time around, I noticed all sorts of problems (individual upstream connections going to 0kB/s after 10 seconds). And all sorts of randomness, rarely able to even come close (not to mention sustain) my self-imposed cap of 30kB/s.

I would have suspected a problem with up my upstream path, but my FTPs are 100% rock solid. Back to Bittorrent... I tried downloading off of a public torrent server, and was able to download just great, but my upload throughput was weak and random.

Example FTP stats...
> 9558016 bytes sent in 140.65Seconds 67.96Kbytes/sec.

Has anyone from Cox answered the original question, or has a response been avoided so far? "Cox doesn't mess with Bittorrent traffic, does it?"


MarkyD
Premium
join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK

I find it interesting that we're both in Oklahoma and noticing similar behavior.


bom619

join:2002-06-14
San Diego, CA

Having unpredictable results in San Diego as well. New behavior... very strange.


robertfl
Premium
join:2005-10-10
Mary Esther, FL

Are ISPs going to bed with the RIAA/MPAA? talk about censorship and btw, their ads say "download movies/music at blazing speeds"

-Rob


jmccorm

join:2003-08-17
Tulsa, OK

reply to bom619

said by bom619:

Having unpredictable results in San Diego as well. New behavior... very strange.
This guy was also complaining about BitTorrent uploading problems, in San Diego, but he got lost in a bunch of noise of people, who aren't Cox employees, telling him there isn't a problem:
»[CA] Packet Shaping, San Diego

I download IPFW and added the following firewall rule...
deny tcp from any to me 6881 tcp flags rst
...and ran another test. In a period of 5 minutes, the firewall rule detected OVER 2000 RST packets on the BitTorrent port.

I didn't run a packet sniffer on both sides of a BitTorrent connection to prove that fake RST packets are being generated, but I think I've proved to my own satisfaction that Cox is engaging in Comcast-like behavior. Even still, I want an answer from a Cox employee who can speak authoritatively on this.

The question, again: "Does Cox interfere, in any way, with BitTorrent traffic?"


Pyrion
Liquid Metal Nanomorph

join:2001-12-01
Poway, CA
kudos:1

reply to robertfl

said by robertfl:

Are ISPs going to bed with the RIAA/MPAA? talk about censorship and btw, their ads say "download movies/music at blazing speeds"

-Rob
Note the lack of the keyword "illegally" in that statement.
--
"There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge." - Bertrand Russell

jmccorm

join:2003-08-17
Tulsa, OK

said by Pyrion:

Are ISPs going to bed with the RIAA/MPAA? talk about censorship and btw, their ads say "download movies/music at blazing speeds"

Note the lack of the keyword "illegally" in that statement.


I think that you both have a good question for Cox, just you are asking it in different ways:

Assuming Cox is interfering with BitTorrent...
1] Are they doing this to partially curtail piracy on their network?
2] Or are they doing it to preserve more free bandwidth on their network?


Pyrion
Liquid Metal Nanomorph

join:2001-12-01
Poway, CA
kudos:1

I'm not asking a question, I'm pointing out a flaw in reasoning.


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