moonpuppy
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Glen Burnie, MD
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Re: Can't the sock puppet read?
said by ib50MbSoon  :Well DUH! Comcast's TOS clearly states no servers. P2P is a server. So is every chat program out there. Should we ban those too? How about video conferencing? |
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ib50MbSoon
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join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
| said by moonpuppy :So is every chat program out there. Should we ban those too? How about video conferencing? Are chat programs bandwidth-intensive applications that run unattended 24/7?
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by ib50MbSoon :said by moonpuppy :So is every chat program out there. Should we ban those too? How about video conferencing? Are chat programs bandwidth-intensive applications that run unattended 24/7? They are still servers and therefore, against the TOS. |
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jester121
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Lake Zurich, IL
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said by moonpuppy :said by ib50MbSoon :Well DUH! Comcast's TOS clearly states no servers. P2P is a server. So is every chat program out there. Should we ban those too? How about video conferencing? We could argue that point -- offering an assortment of files for anonymous strangers to download seems a lot more "server-like" than a 1:1 connection streaming audio and video (or text) back and forth. I bet I'd win in court. 
[Please, spare us the dictionary definition, if anyone's thinking of pasting it in -- we've all read it and it's not really helpful to the conversation.] |
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DotMac4
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Huntington Beach, CA | reply to ib50MbSoon
They don't say only "bandwidth-intensive" servers...all servers are a violation of the Comcast TOS/AUP. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to jester121
said by jester121 :[Please, spare us the dictionary definition, if anyone's thinking of pasting it in -- we've all read it and it's not really helpful to the conversation.] Really? Why don't the ISPs spare us the legalese that defines nearly everything we do online against the TOS. |
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RJ44
join:2001-10-19
Nashville, TN
| reply to DotMac4
said by DotMac4 :They don't say only "bandwidth-intensive" servers...all servers are a violation of the Comcast TOS/AUP. They didn't say it, but you can bet your last dollar that's what it means. It's a clause put in their to protect their butts, and if they need to use it they will. They don't care about the strict definition of a server, they care about making sure their network runs smoothly. |
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TKJunkMail
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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said by moonpuppy :They are still servers and therefore, against the TOS. Just like the police don't enforce all traffic laws all the time but reserve the right to stick it to you when they feel like it, Comcast can enforce the TOS when and how they see fit. There is no law that says they have to enforce every infraction of the TOS. But they can enforce the TOS whenever they feel like. Don't like that, then go elsewhere.
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TKJunkMail
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said by DotMac4 :They don't say only "bandwidth-intensive" servers...all servers are a violation of the Comcast TOS/AUP. Just like the police don't enforce all traffic laws all the time but reserve the right to stick it to you when they feel like it, Comcast can enforce the TOS when and how they see fit. There is no law that says they have to enforce every infraction of the TOS. But they can enforce the TOS whenever they feel like. Don't like that, then go elsewhere
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
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said by TKJunkMail :... Don't like that, then go elsewhere. you say that a lot and it makes me sad. I don't have any elsewhere to go to. Does this mean you hate me? |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
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said by TKJunkMail :Just like the police don't enforce all traffic laws all the time but reserve the right to stick it to you when they feel like it, Comcast can enforce the TOS when and how they see fit. There is no law that says they have to enforce every infraction of the TOS. But they can enforce the TOS whenever they feel like. Don't like that, then go elsewhere. Felt strongly enough you had to say it twice? 
Selective enforcement leads to problems. The problem becomes what was o.k. at one time becomes against the rules the next day. This leads to questioning on whether or not the TOS is selectively enforced for nefarious reasons. If companies do this then they deserved to be called out for hypocrisy. |
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