Ulmo
join:2005-09-22
San Jose, CA
 ·Comcast
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| reply to fiberguy
Re: Don't think this dog will hunt...
said by fiberguy  :Verizon is going to have a hard time pushing this one. ... Further, I think that they are going to have some hard, VERY HARD, regulatory hurdles to get through when people finally wake up and fight back. VZ has been careful to roll out FiOS in such a way they don't piss (many) people off, including constituents and politicians. This will cause the anti-remove-copper-group to have little power. There may be a few tiny skirmishes, but they'll have less impact than the copper thieves unless the police start catching them faster somehow (some technology comes to mind).
I'm not saying that there's no use for copper. But c'mon ... the only reason copper is better than fiber right now is entirely regulatory in source, so technically the copper is far inferior, and the regulations making copper better or FiOS worse could easily be changed and/or eliminated.
(One way copper is made better by regulations is the competition it holds that fiber does not.) There's also the ability to have line power on the copper line and not have batteries for your phone, but that's about it. Maybe a few other little things. |
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fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20
| reply to danclan
I know what fiber is.. it's the line.. I'm referring to the product and the difference of Fiber/Copper.. ok?
.. if it's tariffed, that's fine, but it's still void of certain regulation. Are they still a common carrier? Are you able to get, say, Earthlink broadband over the fiber line?
.. no.. the Fiber is not under the same rules as copper.
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danclan
join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA | reply to fiberguy
the fiber is not the services running on it..they are still tarrifed..... |
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fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20 | reply to openbox9
It's my understanding that the Fiber product is exempt from certain regulatory rules... |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
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said by fiberguy :Not that fiber isn't a better product, not all customers are going to want a product that isn't network powered OR where they are under protection of a regulatory body for such an important life line service. What  I thought everyone "needed" FTTH....said by fiberguy :if the government (PUC) puts their foot down and forces the same regulation on the FiOS product as they do the copper service. Is Verizon voice via FiOS not regulated?said by fiberguy :Last time I checked, the Incumbent provider was supposed to wire every home in it's service area... And they still do. I don't believe that requirement has changed. |
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fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20
| Verizon is going to have a hard time pushing this one.
The TOS is based and geared towards the product - not the house. I am really curious how Verizon is going to be able to uphold the ability to force a customers to act is one way on a different product line based on the TOS of another.
Further, I think that they are going to have some hard, VERY HARD, regulatory hurdles to get through when people finally wake up and fight back.
Not that fiber isn't a better product, not all customers are going to want a product that isn't network powered OR where they are under protection of a regulatory body for such an important life line service.
The ONLY way that I'd be satisfied to be forced off of one technology is if the government (PUC) puts their foot down and forces the same regulation on the FiOS product as they do the copper service.
The absence of consumer protections in any city (ie: Fios/Cable Vision served areas) is NEVER good for the consumer. If FiOS is non-regulated, then who protects the consumer? The courts?
Last time I checked, the Incumbent provider was supposed to wire every home in it's service area... Verizon wants it's cake and to eat it too.
Bottom line, I don't think this TOS is going to fly...
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