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Maxo
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reply to NormanS

Re: EMBARQ Hijacks Browser Search Capabilities

Mind you, this is on Linux:

david@david-desktop:~$ nslookup www.microsoft.com
Server:         192.168.1.254
Address:        192.168.1.254#53
 
Non-authoritative answer:
www.microsoft.com       canonical name = toggle.www.ms.akadns.net.
toggle.www.ms.akadns.net        canonical name = g.www.ms.akadns.net.
g.www.ms.akadns.net     canonical name = lb1.www.ms.akadns.net.
Name:   lb1.www.ms.akadns.net
Address: 207.46.19.190
Name:   lb1.www.ms.akadns.net
Address: 207.46.193.254
Name:   lb1.www.ms.akadns.net
Address: 207.46.19.254
Name:   lb1.www.ms.akadns.net
Address: 207.46.192.254
 

david@david-desktop:~$ nslookup www.microsoft.con 208.67.222.222
Server:         208.67.222.222
Address:        208.67.222.222#53
 
Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   www.microsoft.con
Address: 208.69.32.130
 

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NormanS
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said by Maxo:

Mind you, this is on Linux:
As long as the results make sense...

Your first lookup queries your router, or modem? That would hold the actual Embarq DNS servers, yes? What would interest me would be the results of looking up 'www.microsoft.con' using the Embarq DNS servers. Should be something like this:
C:\Documents and Settings\Norman>nslookup www.microsoft.con
*** Can't find server name for address 192.168.0.1: Non-existent domain
*** Default servers are not available
Server:  UnKnown
Address:  192.168.0.1
 
*** UnKnown can't find www.microsoft.con: Non-existent domain
 
I have actually been jumping around, trying different setting in my router. I ran with the default DHCP setting (router gets IP address, DNS servers from SpeedStream 4100) for a long time. Every so often, though, I'd hit a period of DNS lag. I thought it might be the router firmware, and tried both the latest version, and the first (router shipped with the middle version, of three). Ultimately figured it might be some kind of interaction between the router and the modem, so I manually overrode the automatic settings. I also played with OpenDNS (set up an account to configure things) and Verizon DNS server on the router. Ultimately, what I don't like about OpenDNS is that the Google lookup suggests an OpenDNS landing page for the Google site:
C:\Documents and Settings\Norman>nslookup www.google.com
Server:  resolver1.opendns.com
Address:  208.67.222.222
 
Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    google.navigation.opendns.com
Addresses:  208.67.219.230, 208.67.219.231
Aliases:  www.google.com
 
I am not sure why they do that. I don't know why I should trust OpenDNS more than Google.

Anyway, I'd rather keep the ATTIS DNS servers, for now (68.94.156.1/68.94.157.1). If 'at&t Yahoo!HSI' (ATTIS) changes things, I would consider jumping over to DSL Extreme for Internet service. As long as DSLX kept a basic, no-frills, no tricks DNS service. Or run with Dynamic DNS Network Services, LLC "Recursive DNS" service, if necessary. Granted, I'd have to pay for it. But it would be exactly what DNS should be.

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dagman52

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Norman,
I didn't take screenshots, but nslookup is responding correctly when I'm opted out of the service (using Linux). Opting back in is overriding the queries on a known typo. I would go so far to say as Embarq's DNS servers are working as I would expect.


NormanS
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I didn't post a single screen shot. All are "copy and paste" jobs; plain text.

If an 'nslookup' on a non-existent domain does not return an IP address to a landing page, then there is no problem that I can see.
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dagman52

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agreed. Perhaps we are arguing the same thing.


NormanS
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I was just trying to find out what the Embarq DNS servers were really doing. I don't use them myself, and don't know if I could test them myself. At least on ISP blocks access to their DNS servers from outside of their customer network IP address space.
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espaeth
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I ran through some of the DNS servers listed in the FAQ, it appears all of the Flordia servers are doing the mistype redirection, but once you go further down the list the results are hit and miss.



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reply to NormanS

said by NormanS:

Ultimately, what I don't like about OpenDNS is that the Google lookup suggests an OpenDNS landing page for the Google site.

I am not sure why they do that. I don't know why I should trust OpenDNS more than Google.
Google cuts OpenDNS in on the AdWords revenue, which is how they are able to provide the service for free. Google needs some way to track who is using OpenDNS to get to their site to properly attribute the AdWords revenue payout for sponsored link clicks, so that's why you get directed to the OpenDNS navigation page first so that the OpenDNS referral can be tracked.

You get the same Google content and search results, the only thing that changes is who gets paid if you click on a sponsored link.

-Eric


Maxo
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reply to NormanS

said by NormanS:

Your first lookup queries your router, or modem? That would hold the actual Embarq DNS servers, yes? What would interest me would be the results of looking up 'www.microsoft.con' using the Embarq DNS servers. Should be something like this:
I have a 2-Wire modem/router combo. The router is holding the DNS servers (they are set to automatically obtain.)

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