Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19446056 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:47:44 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:47:44 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19453577 Jodokast96 : No, it wouldn't. Even if you lost half of your customers and the other half switch to a service that's almost 3x the price, you're already making more money than with all of them at $15. Given the cost of any other alternative would be even more than the cheapest FIOS offering, you would probably be able to keep more than half of them, so now they are really getting a return on their investment. A quick run of the numbers shows that you would only need to switch 37.5% from $15/month to $40/month to break even. And once it became public that they were offering a $15 FIOS plan, more people would demand it and get it. Sorry, the numbers just don't play out into their favor that way. Look how long it took for low cost DSL plans. Almost at the end of it's life when it was starting to be replaced. It won't happen for any reason. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19453577 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:26:13 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19453337 anon : I'm sure that they would use a plan like that for retention, then they wouldn't have to offer it to everyone. $15 would be a better return on the investment than 0.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19453337 Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:41:54 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19446570 Jodokast96 : That would be a billing nightmare. They have enough billing problems with FIOS as it is. And it would only be a matter of time before it got out and then everyone else would be pissed off. Sorry, FIOS is not a budget service, and there is no reason for them to offer it as such. They have sunk BILLIONS into it. Why would they offer DSL users a cheap rate? Where do you think most of the FIOS users will be coming from? So they deploy this great new upgraded system and bill all of their current customers the same? Where's the ROI? They NEED to charge more than they currently do for DSL to pay for it, plain and simple, or they won't survive. If they do away with DSL, those people have two options. Go to FIOS and pay more a month or go to cable and pay more a month. Guess which still comes in the cheapest? Not cable. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19446570 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:36:59 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19446531 elios : did you miss the part of about selling kidneys that wasnt a joke id pay nearly any thing for FiOS and there are WAYS to get around the phone bill i dont need half the bundled crap
just local service and im fine ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19446531 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:30:07 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19446454 boober321 :
said by elios See Profile :

do you really NEED another choice with FiOS verizon can cut my copper POTS line any day
id sell a kidney for 20/20 FiOS
A rather narrow and small minded comment. Sure they can cut you copper, and then they can jack up your internet prices to $75/month... and oh, BTW- you also must use OUR telephone service for $50/mo. Nothing like a monopoly to make competition obsolete. If Verizon is removing the copper, then they should be FORCED to allow competitors to buy space, just like on DSL lines...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19446454 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:14:22 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19446368 hottboiinnc : If they offered the DSL customers a chance to move to FiOS for the same price, package and everything else- they would not have to offer it to everyone else; especially if the customer has a "for-life" deal. The deal would only be for those customers and it would say that. They would simply have a sign-up code or flag your account or something to know who you are verse another customer wanting the plan; it simply would not show up in whats available at the other address.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19446368 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:59:57 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19446056 rebus9 :
said by elios See Profile :

true but i wouldnt want less then 1.5Mbps any way and dont know why any one would you cant really do any thing with it
Well, that depends on your point of view. This past weekend Road Runner had a rare (for us) outage that lasted almost all day Sunday.

My neighbor on FIOS gave me his wireless SSID and WEP key so I could use his connection while mine was down. He has 10/2 but with the (weak marginal) signal from 2 houses away, I could barely get 1.0 Mbps. Still, 1 megabit is like heaven when you have no other option, and my wife and I surfed the web just fine all day with no complaints.

Let's be real about this.

768k or 1.5 Mbps service is great for normal web & email users like our parents and co-workers. By "normal", I mean NOT rabid YouTube fans, P2P, Usenet, and other bandwidth hogs like most of us on these forums. We love our internet and are addicted to downloads. Normal users have no clue, and no desire, to download Terabytes of data each year.

I'd die on 3 Mbps DSL and my 7 Mbps Road Runner seems more inadequate each day. But I was perfectly happy on 1.0 Mbps when I limited myself to just web and email that day.
 ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19446056 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:14:13 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444898 Jodokast96 : They're cheapest plan is $40 for 10/2. That's the price point they need to be at right now to get a return on deployment. Most people don't need that much speed, so if the offer a lower package, most would go with that. So the end up not making back the money they need. Right now it's cheaper for them to give more speed than offer lower, cheaper packages.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444898 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:19:01 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444855 elios : true but i wouldnt want less then 1.5Mbps any way and dont know why any one would you cant really do any thing with it
i guess if all you do is check your e-mail then its fine but you can do with 56k
but yes maybe verizon should offer a 20-25 buck 1.5/128 plan
even a 30 buck 1.5/1.5 would be fine for most]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444855 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:11:50 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444825 Jodokast96 : That would be fine, but then they'd have to offer it up to everyone else as well. I don't think they want to offer up any FIOS plan for $15, no matter the speed. They need to make money back for the huge investment they are making, and offering low cost packages won't do it for them. Maybe once they start showing a profit on FIOS you might see budget plans, but not until at least then.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444825 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:05:43 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444803 elios : i dont see why Verizon cant just keep them on that speed plan on the fiber then ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444803 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:02:00 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444661 Jodokast96 : When you are talking about people only spending $15-$20/month at 768, yeah they do need another choice. No FIOS plans that cheap, are there?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444661 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:37:13 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444426 JTRockville : You can have one of my kidneys.

But I'm keepin' my FiOS.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444426 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:53:59 EDT Re: In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444371 dvd536 :
said by elios See Profile :

do you really NEED another choice with FiOS verizon can cut my copper POTS line any day
id sell a kidney for 20/20 FiOS
id sell a kidney for any speed of FiOS.
Verizon show us no love in qwestland. :hmm:
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id sell a kidney for 20/20 FiOS ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444231 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:17:58 EDT In Verizon's best interest to get customers migrated.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19444152 aefstoggaflm : :uhh:

I hope they don't force it on people, right away. That is not right.

What ever happened to: Competition (choice) is a good thing?

[EDIT] I hope they give plenty advanced warning to the consumer.

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