Re: one that day comes.. in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19454556 en Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:30:21 EDT Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:30:21 EDT Re: one that day comes.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19462604 swhx7 : If you could prove that some legitimate video was filtered out by ATT, when you're not an ATT subscriber and didn't agree to their Terms of Service, then theoretically you could have grounds for a lawsuit - interference with contract, or something of that sort.

Realistically however, I think the only thing that will really have a chance is Congress imposing some sort of network neutrality law, or making the FCC do so.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19462604 Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:06:16 EDT Re: one that day comes.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19459213 hottboiinnc : AT&T Wholesale DSL lines are different than their network. The ISP actually isn't reselling the network. Just the leased part and the DSLAM services basically.

The ISP is required to have an ATM line to the CO's they wish to service or the LATA. That ties them into the actual network. But each ISP is required to have their own backbone connection to the provider of their choice as long as they have the connection the AT&T phone network.

The ISP is pretty much separate network except for the last mile.

So this should not affect any wholesale ISPs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19459213 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:52:00 EDT Re: one that day comes.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19457330 charterbites : It's cheap enough to have TWO providers of HSI. I have AT$T for my email and business transactions at 6 M and Charter 10 M for gaming for the kids and everything else.

It's only money!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19457330 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:21:45 EDT Re: one that day comes.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19456402 NormanS :
said by o2cool8 See Profile :

A lot of people will be jumping ship, even if the alternate provider is junk. I was wondering though, what about companies who resale AT&T lines, will they also be filtered?
The question is, will AT&T also apply the filters to their backbone. They operate at least two transit networks (maybe three):

AT&T Worldnet Services, which is a Tier 1 network selling transit to other providers, such as Comcast. Probably also for their own dial and DSL customers (AT&T Worldnet).

AT&T Internet Services. This is the transit network used for 'at&t Yahoo! HSI' customers.

I expect that the transit network handling former Bellsouth DSL customer traffic should also be included.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19456402 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:02:28 EDT Re: one that day comes.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19455250 anon :
said by gaforces See Profile :

I hope they get insurance for the false positives, $175,000 a pop ...
AT$T doesn't need insurance. They already own the government.

As for AT$T's implementation of filtering . . . I hope it ain't so. I'm not a big fan of AT$T, but right now it's my only choice for reliable HSI (unless you count Comcast with it's smoke & mirrors and daily outages of 2 hours or more).

Thankfully, with all the competition in the Houston market, my heads hurtin' trying to decide who to go to. :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19455250 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:09:22 EDT Re: one that day comes.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19455214 morbo : that is scary. any legal recourse?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19455214 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:03:53 EDT Re: one that day comes.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19455071 swhx7 : AT&T owns some of the internet backbones; a large percentage of internet traffic goes through AT&T control points. (That's why they were/are in a good position to spy for the Feds.) And in one article today a spokesperson said AT&T might offer Hollywood companies filtering that would affect traffic of other providers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19455071 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:37:44 EDT Re: one that day comes.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19454556 gaforces : I hope they get insurance for the false positives, $175,000 a pop ...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19454556 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:45:09 EDT one that day comes.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19454538 o2cool8 : A lot of people will be jumping ship, even if the alternate provider is junk. I was wondering though, what about companies who resale AT&T lines, will they also be filtered?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19454538 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:40:14 EDT