GOLFnSUN
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ
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 ·Comcast
|  The movie thieves will scream Net Neutrality
This will just inflame all those stealing movies and get them shouting about network neutrality. Like it is some inalienable right to get movies without paying for them.
If the system actually works, it will put a dent in the practice of stealing movies - especially if other ISPs follow suit. |
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
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| Of COURSE they will. It's not the providers RIGHT to monitor what you use the internet for. If you choose to go to www.barely18.com, that's your RIGHT. If I choose to stream data from a remote site to my computer, that's MY right.
What planet are you from where you think this system has a chance in hell of working? Hell, just rar up the files and it won't find anything.
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mpelle4456
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join:2001-07-21
Tacoma, WA
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| said by karlmarx  :What planet are you from where you think this system has a chance in hell of working? Hell, just rar up the files and it won't find anything. It's simple - he works for Comcast. They PAY him to post these gems of wisdom (that tout the company line). |
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GOLFnSUN
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Avalon, NJ
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| said by mpelle4456 :said by karlmarx :What planet are you from where you think this system has a chance in hell of working? Hell, just rar up the files and it won't find anything. It's simple - he works for Comcast. They PAY him to post these gems of wisdom (that tout the company line). Wrong again. Don't you shills for copyright infringement ever grow weary of accusing anyone whose for honesty as an employee of the ISPs??
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
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| Nah this forum would be boring without a paid representative of the "other side". As long as they don't click on your links, no harm done
It makes the board more fun, when people accuse each other of copyright infringement and shilling, nothing is provable of course. |
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
|  reply to GOLFnSUN
said by GOLFnSUN :This will just inflame all those stealing movies and get them shouting about network neutrality. Like it is some inalienable right to get movies without paying for them. If the system actually works, it will put a dent in the practice of stealing movies - especially if other ISPs follow suit. nice flame bait, HCT
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to axus
No need for proof when you've got some copyright infringers flat out bragging about their actions. I haven't seen any corporate shills seriously admit to their actions, but I'm willing to bet that's because there aren't any here. |
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Thaler
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Encino, CA
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said by GOLFnSUN :If the system actually works, it will put a dent in the practice of stealing movies - especially if other ISPs follow suit. Because we all know, historically, that pirates have been deterred by anti-piracy measures. 
Sorry, the new AT&T "feature" just screams of potential legit foul-ups, not to mention the slippery slope of ISP content filtering. |
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P Ness
You'Ve Forgotten 9-11 Already
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said by GOLFnSUN :This will just inflame all those stealing movies and get them shouting about network neutrality. Like it is some inalienable right to get movies without paying for them. If the system actually works, it will put a dent in the practice of stealing movies - especially if other ISPs follow suit. Yes because companies are well known for stopping at just one thing that ends up saving them tons of money.
next you will see them filtering stuff from google because they want you to use their search tool, and then CNN because they are partners with FOX, on and on and on.....
great trend to support
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justaguy
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Hi,
I download videos regularly, none of which are in violation of any copyrights. I will not patronize any company that even considers trying to censor my own informational interests.
You claim that if this system works that it will put a dent in copyright infringements. I say that you don't understand that this system is so easily bypassed that it won't even cause a blip on the radar the size of a honeybee.
AT&T is doing this because it shows that they are 'trying' in the end, it is a waste of money that will result higher prices for their customers.
Of course, aside from a letter that I am drafting explaining why I won't ever become an AT&T subscriber, I don't have any services to cancel.
When it comes to IP, I respect it. Yet I will not patronize a company that has practices like AT&T. |
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justaguy
@lmco.com | reply to GOLFnSUN
If the system actually works, it will put a dent in the practice of stealing movies - especially if other ISPs follow suit.
And just to reiterate the point.
How will this system work if someone encrypts their data? |
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thevorpal
join:2007-11-16
Alexandria, VA | Aside: finally registered. |
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hopeflicker
Capitalism breeds greed
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join:2003-04-03
Long Beach, CA
| reply to justaguy
said by justaguy :
If the system actually works, it will put a dent in the practice of stealing movies - especially if other ISPs follow suit.
And just to reiterate the point.
How will this system work if someone encrypts their data?
I dont even think encryption is needed. Just a simple Zip/rar file is all.
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swhx7
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Elbonia
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If the ISPs are allowed to start filtering traffic for content, we will never have safe or reliable internet communications. It will start with alleged copyright infringement, then more categories will be added - alleged defamation, alleged exposure of trade secrets, alleged trademark violations, alleged illegal pornography, alleged terrorism-related material, etc..
And because this is a corporation, there will be no due process, no recourse for mistakes, no compensation for victims of false positives, no oversight.
Is this the proper role of an ISP? I say no, their job should be only to deliver the traffic as well as possible. Responsibility for content should be a separate issue handled by the appropriate process of complaints, suits and takedowns.
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Doctor Four
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Dallas, TX
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said by hopeflicker :nice flame bait, HCT Precisely why I have him on ignore.
I wonder: does a Telco/Cable/Megacorp shill make a
sound if no one is listening to them?
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WrzWrz
join:2002-08-23
Fort Thomas, KY
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"The movie thieves will scream Net Neutrality"
No, the movie thieves will just begin putting their stolen movies into encrypted modules such as encrypted RAR archives which will bypass this foolish technology altogether.  |
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boober321
join:2003-07-15
Milwaukee, WI
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said by Thaler :Sorry, the new AT&T "feature" just screams of potential legit foul-ups, not to mention the slippery slope of ISP content filtering. No kidding. Just wait for when they filter out competing video sources and label them as "piracy."
I don't understand the whole rationale behind the opposition of net neutrality. By god these turds would cry like a stuck pig if anti-abortion, Christian and NRA websites got filtered. |
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bigjimc
join:2003-04-21
Middleboro, MA | reply to swhx7
Sounds like .cn to me... (China) |
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viperlmw
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join:2005-01-25 | reply to thevorpal
Welcome! |
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Doctor Four
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Dallas, TX
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said by karlmarx :What planet are you from where you think this system has a chance in hell of working? Hell, just rar up the files and it won't find anything. The planet of denial.
There hasn't been a single anti-piracy technology that
has yet to be defeated. Even Sandvine has been bypassed.
If this cat and mouse game (or arms race if you prefer
to call it that) continues, the logical conclusion is
that there is going to be a p2p protocol that is so
obfuscated/encrypted, etc. that it is going to be cost
prohibitive to implement any piracy filter to stop it.
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