Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs: 
| Ok..so..
Let's really take a look at this.
SEVENTY dollars per month for 15Mb service..(assuming voice isn't bundled..and he**..why not just add that overpriced service as well).
Almost SIXTY three percent more than Comcasts HSI residential service.
To borrow an old wendys saying here for a minute..
Where's the beef?
You know..we could ALL go out and buy ourselves an expensive direct connection and get virtually anything we want..if we're willing to pay for it.
I just don't get the "gotta have this" mentality on this thread and particularly..the "comcast and the cable co's are worried about this".
If anything..this is a specialty product and I REALLY doubt that a whole lot of consumers are going to be clamoring to raise their bill by 63%.
And, for WHAT?
What is it that's different?
It SURELY isn't the DOWNLOAD speeds because..guess what?
I ALREADY get 5Mb to 15Mb HIGHER than their 70.00 package with MY comcast powerboost connection.
So..lucky you fios folks.
You get to pay 63% more for 50% LESS download speeds than I and others get.
But RICK..you say..it's all about the UPLOAD.
Ahhh! Ok.....oh....umm..yea...WOW!
That's it!
Well..what the he** do I really use THAT for anyway?
To email my Grandma a few photos and maybe send a big email or two occassionally?
I ALREADY get pb speeds of about 2Mb for that and that really seems to serve me well as it is.
And I highly doubt that with Docsis 3.0 coming..that THAT will stay where it is anyway.
But RICK..it's FIBER dummy!
Really? You mean the same FIBER that Comcast has been putting in their network for TEN years now?
Folks. Friends. Fellow BBR members.
Fios..just is Verizon's way of even beginning to try to catch up to what Comcast and the other cable co's already are.
Comcast..tw and others have more fiber in their diet than many know and understand and are ready to compete in every way where they have to.
Can someone point to a single issue and say that this or that company has something that someone else doesn't?
Yes. Absolutely.
But, to take this program from verizon means you LOSE something from Comcast and others many times.
And, you certainly get to pay a lot more for that honor.
I don't know about YOU..but I sure don't want to pay 70 bucks a month for this program. It's expensive..and something that isn't needed.
I'd also be sacrificing up to half my dl speeds..which are MORE important to me.
And, I suspect that with docsis 3.0 coming out soon..the UL side will take care of itself.
At a REASONABLE cost.
Think about it.
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Wraith1283
join:2002-11-30
West Hempstead, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Honestly just because you dont have a need to use it doesn't mean other people do not have a use. I do not have a use for the service so I will not order it. I will stick to my 5 Mb/s up and 20 Mb/s down and pay the $49.99 a month they charge me. I'm just glad Verizon is trying to do something different in the broadband business and not just "traffic shape" like comcrap does. |
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs:
| I didn't say that some might not have a use for it.
For some, it might make perfect sense to go with.
I just don't see it as being right though to present it as being better than what Comcast offers. For some, it might be rather foolish to go with, considering the added cost and fact that they would actually be lowering their dl speeds many times instead.
What it is, is a specialized product and should be both viewed and presented in that manner.
Personally, I'd go with the package you have instead..the 20/5 package. That's really more along the lines of what should be compared to the cable providers instead.
But, it should also be noted that you too pay more for it than we do on Comcast. That too is reflected in the higher ul speeds though...but still..the 49.95 seems like a reasonable price.
As for comcast..I just ran a speedtest and am seeing 29,205/1791 for speeds right now on that.
If that is "traffic shaping"..and "comcrap" in your or others eyes....then all I can say is..give me more of it.
It's a great value..and a great service..
and well worth the 42.95 month price I pay.
And, I fully expect that when docsis 3.0 starts rolling out in 2008..it will only keep on getting better from there.
Bottom line is..it's nice we all have choices. But I'm not really quite sure I get all the fios hoopla going around.
Comcast has been doing fiber for 10 years now..not one.
And their network has plenty of it.
All Verizon is really trying to do is to catch up and compete and it's great that in certain areas..they're now able to do that.
Comcast's CEO has already demo'd 150Mb speeds however on this very network..and I sure wouldn't be counting them out..nor their response to this in the months ahead.
Would I switch If I had great comcast service to an unknown?
Not on your life.
I simply don't see the benefit..nor am I interested in raising my price by 63%.
Some may feel that's worth it to them..and again..to them I say it's nice to have that choice.
But I'm not so sure it's the way to go.
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SGR
Premium
join:2003-05-19
Lutherville Timonium, MD
clubs:
·Verizon FIOS
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November 17th, @06:44PM
| Rick, its a bit misleading to say you have faster speeds than FiOS because of powerboost. Powerboost only works for a few seconds in the beginning of a download and depends strongly on the traffic of the node. You might hit 2MB/s during off peak times but it'll only last seconds. Otherwise you'll be at 8Mbit. (If you're one of the select few markets you might be at 16Mbit) The same is true for your upload and upload powerboost is only available in select areas. Otherwise you're at 768 or 1Mbit. You also have issues with bittorrent and if you download too much in a given period you're threatened with termination yet offered no information on how to stay away from being terminated other than stop downloading what you *think* is a lot. Obviously these leads to people being terminated because they *think* they stopped downloading a lot when in fact Comcast thought otherwise.
Meanwhile with FiOS we're at a constant 15Mbit or 20Mbit which is about 2MB/s. This speed is constant, and will never slow down even if our files are 5GB+. Our uploads are currently 2Mbit which is double your fastest upload speed tier. When Monday rolls around we'll also have 15Mbit or 20Mbit uploads which will pretty much blow away anything away offered by cable for months, if not years, to come. We also have the option of upgrading to even higher tiers like 30, 35, or 50Mbit tiers if needed. As of right now we don't have caps and our downloads aren't being messed with when using bittorent.
Verizon isn't playing catch up, they are leading the pack by a significant amount when it comes to their Internet service. The only way you can claim Verizon is playing catch up is via its TV service, which I would then have to agree with you on. Otherwise FiOS is the best of the best and is rather evident by the amount of people simply wishing they had it and the reviews of it on this site. |
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JohnA
Premium
join:2003-09-16
Pittsburgh, PA | reply to Rick
Speedtest archives show Verizon is testing 100/50 in New York. Comcast up to that? |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| said by JohnA  :Speedtest archives show Verizon is testing 100/50 in New York. Comcast up to that? A better question would be: are Time Warner and Cablevision up to the task? Of course the pricetag would have to be around the $99-$129 price range (with symmetrical 20mbit getting DIRT CHEAP in 2008-- $40 when bundled w/ voice or video, $50 when not).
:-P |
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medianas
@comcast.net
| But Rick, were paying 75/mo for 8m/768k from comcast in the south florida area where Verizon is not available...
(yeah yeah their site says its 60, but then they aren't showing taxes and other hidden fees that they throw in)
Id rather have 15mb service for 70/mo, that's cheaper than comcast here... |
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