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mikenolan7
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Re: Schools should be penalized for ignoring piracy

While they are at it, how about raiding the dorm rooms of students suspected of the underage consumption of alcohol. Let's start requiring drug tests before enrollment, since that's what corporations do. And better start locking up those evildoers that kidnap the opponent's mascot before the homecoming game. Hey, textbooks are copyrighted aren't they? We better stop any of those BAD kids from giving their textbook to a friend who has the class next semester. In fact, let's Deputize all of the prof's, and any student suspected of peeking at another students paper during an exam could be hauled away to do 10-20, like they deserve. THEY ARE OUR GODDAMN CHILDREN, AND OUR FUTURE. THEY ARE KIDS!! They make the wrong choice more often than even adults, which is sometimes hard to believe.

No, this law is even better, we will punish ALL of the little creeps, not just the ones who have committed the heinous crime of letting a friend listen to music they enjoy. I guess you never went to college, because if you did you would remember that we all recorded our vinyl onto cassettes and shared them. Otherwise I would have listened to the same 10 albums for four years. I lived on $25 spending money, per week, for 4 years. That included groceries. My first two years I earned that money by being a night watchman in a woman's dorm, one night a week from midnight till 7 AM, and one night a week from midnight till 3 AM. Then I went to class the next day. My last two years I earned that money by grading homework, sometimes for classes I was currently taking. Give these kids a break!

This is, without a doubt, the stupidest, greediest, most short-sighted bill that I have ever heard of, in my life. And they have the unmitigated gall of calling it the "College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2007".

"Such an extraordinarily inappropriate and punitive outcome would result in all students on that campus losing their federal financial aid--including Pell grants and student loans that are essential to their ability to attend college, advance their education, and acquire the skills necessary to compete in the 21st-century economy," a letter from university officials to Congress written on Wednesday said. "Lower-income students, those most in need of federal financial aid, would be harmed most under the entertainment industry's proposal."

The letter was signed by the chancellor of the University of Maryland system, the president of Stanford University, the general counsel of Yale University, and the president of Penn State.

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furthermore it might not even be legal..

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_freedom


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furthermore it might not even be legal..

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_freedom
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please go back and read the first line


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please go back and read the first line
Here is the 1st line, and I read it the 1st time:
Academic Freedom is the freedom of teachers, students, and academic institutions to pursue knowledge wherever it may lead, without undue or unreasonable interference.
Stopping copyright infringement(stealing) isn't undue or unreasonable interference.
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Bye HCT. I shouldn't have shot my mouth off, because I wouldn't harass anyone here. That would be as stupid as this bill, punish everyone for the acts of a few (or one). You really don't matter, anyway. What I will do is write a more level-headed letter, to the House Majority Leader, and figure out how to give anyone here that wants to an opportunity to sign it. That, at least, may help. I will now help my own blood pressure by putting you on ignore.

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ok... not bad.. half way there...

now read about the bill

»www.news.com/Democrats-Colleges-···ubj=news

.... and tell me... Do RIAA/MPAA approved boxes have the potential to interfere with legitimate content or could it be considerer "undue or unreasonable interference"?

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not just the ones who have committed the heinous crime of letting a friend listen to music they enjoy.
I know you're not that stupid. NO ONE, even the RIAA, gives a rat's arse about some kid "letting a friend" listen to music. As a matter of fact, the RIAA members have always loved this type of "viral marketing".

But you know full well that's not happening. It's not "letting a friend" listen to music. It's letting 4 or 5 billion "friends" listen to it, by publishing it for free, worldwide distribution on the internet. It's about completely reducing the market value of an artist's creation to zero, by effectively eliminating the market. In other words, this is something completely different from giving 2-3 friends copies of a cassette.


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Hey, textbooks are copyrighted aren't they? We better stop any of those BAD kids from giving their textbook to a friend who has the class next semester.
Sorry. That action falls under the "Right of First Sale" doctrine. IOW: Once I buy it, I can give the book away or sell it. The copyright only says I can not use a copying machine to create another copy and then give the copy to the friend (or give the book to the friend while I keep the copy).


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.... This is, without a doubt, the stupidest, greediest, most short-sighted bill that I have ever heard of, in my life. And they have the unmitigated gall of calling it the "College Opportunity and Affordability Act of 2007"....
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Bye HCT.

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said by mikenolan7 See Profile :

Hey, textbooks are copyrighted aren't they? We better stop any of those BAD kids from giving their textbook to a friend who has the class next semester.
Sorry. That action falls under the "Right of First Sale" doctrine. IOW: Once I buy it, I can give the book away or sell it. The copyright only says I can not use a copying machine to create another copy and then give the copy to the friend (or give the book to the friend while I keep the copy).
Well we can go back to loaned/rented books. Or I can make you sign a contract. Are you going to pay lawyers to sue me to try to break that contract (even tho it might be illegal)? "We insure textbook quality for students by giving them the latest each year".

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Wow, HCT got pwned.


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