gardner m
@telus.net
| "Internet speed boost and Telus TV"
The VP of Telus marketing send me an invitation to try out their "new Internet speed boost". 
"We're bringing TELUS super fast network to your neighbourhood, which delivers fibre optics to the home". And it comes with Telus TV. 
Yum,yum. 
..Gardner |
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CR123
join:2006-11-04
Vancouver, BC | Good for you! I wonder if you'll have to sign an NDA
I'm excited about the future. |
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playboy2000
join:2005-05-30
Calgary, AB
 ·TELUS
| said by CR123  :I'm excited about the future. The future of gpon is still a long way off (at the current speed telus is moving). Your best bet is to buy an apartment that has ETTS going in. |
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psydfx
join:2002-12-20
Canada
| said by playboy2000 :said by CR123 :I'm excited about the future. The future of gpon is still a long way off (at the current speed telus is moving). Your best bet is to buy an apartment that has ETTS going in. Uhmm...
said by gardner m :"We're bringing TELUS super fast network to your neighbourhood, which delivers fibre optics to the home". And it comes with Telus TV. It's not a long way off. It's being deployed in newer subdivisions today. Will it be coming to your 40 year old house in your 80 year old neighbourhood anytime soon? Probably not.. but it is definitely being built into certain new subdivisions. |
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joshb
Don't sweat the small stuff.
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| reply to gardner m
Re: "Internet speed boost and Telus TV"
said by gardner m :The VP of Telus marketing send me an invitation to try out their "new Internet speed boost". "We're bringing TELUS super fast network to your neighbourhood, which delivers fibre optics to the home". And it comes with Telus TV. Yum,yum. ..Gardner If I wanted fibre in my house I would move to states and get Verizon fios....I'm not holding out for Telus if I decided I wanted it....
I have a good thing going right now I'm not going to wreck it...
If it ain't broke don't fix!! 
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Tikker_LoS
join:2004-04-29
Regina, SK
·SaskTel Saskatchewan
| reply to psydfx
said by psydfx : Will it be coming to your 40 year old house in your 80 year old neighbourhood anytime soon? Probably not.. but it is definitely being built into certain new subdivisions. fiber to the home will likely show up in the much older sections of town way before the newer sections of town (obviously this doesn't include the new subdivisions that had fiber installed as they were built)
I always disliked the power poles, and overhead aerial drops until I realized that it was sooo much cheaper to run fiber |
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st7860
join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA | reply to gardner m
what would you do with fibre to the home? 600KB/second downloads with the 6.0 package is not enough ? |
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Gardener
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join:2006-10-19
Burnaby, BC
·TELUS
| said by st7860 :what would you do with fibre to the home? 600KB/second downloads with the 6.0 package is not enough ? Dang, I haven't thought up the killer app that needs FTTH. Any suggestions? (I'm on 1.5 Mb; obviously my imagination is limited. |
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st7860
join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA | reply to gardner m
well, FTTH is good for HDTV but then HDTV is already available from various other companies.
FTTH will introduce ultra high download speeds, maybe as much as 5 megabytes per second, but what can you do with it? |
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blutoski
@telus.com
| reply to gardner m
The main benefits of fibre to the curb for TELUS is that it will frog jump over Rogers in terms of speed potential.
Right now, the coax has an advantage over twisted pair, which causes limitations for what TELUS can provide.
For example, twisted pair typically maxes out at under 10Mbps. This is why TTV is limited to a regular signal with two set-top-boxes, and why customers with TTV cannot get 6.0 or HD at this time. It limits TELUS' ability to provide a proper quadruple-play on a single service path (some households have solved it by putting TTV on one path, and 6.0 on adsl-no-local on the second path on their drop)
With fibre, the througput potential will be so much higher, that a household's needs can be serviced with the single connection.
As a poster indicated, though, the big problem for some dwellings is that they have buried neighbourhood cable and drops, which are much more expensive to upgrade than the old pole neighbourhoods and overhead drops. |
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Gardner M
@bcit.ca
| reply to st7860
said by st7860 :what would you do with fibre to the home? 600KB/second downloads with the 6.0 package is not enough ? Last month I was told that the High Speed Extreme package would not be available for me, which I kinda expected because I live out in the boonies. So this has come as a delightful surprise. (But then I ain't holdin' my breath).
Had to call twice to check this out 'cause I wasn't sure the first guy knew what I was going on about. He told me my current High Speed Enhanced would be enough to carry the HDTV. "Oh ya! No problem!" The future may be friendly but I don't think it's on the ball all the time. |
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Tikker_LoS
join:2004-04-29
Regina, SK
·SaskTel Saskatchewan
| reply to blutoski
said by blutoski :
For example, twisted pair typically maxes out at under 10Mbps. depends on where the DSLAMS are living
if your copper loop is under 1km 25Mbps is easily obtainable
if you can shorten it to 300-400ish metres you start reaching 50ish mbps speeds |
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blutoski
@telus.com
| Realistically, though, there's such a miniscule fraction of the TELUS footprint that qualifies above 10Mbps that it doesn't justify the cost of upgrading the product and prequalification tools. Many neighbourhoods are also complicated by carrier technology that is incompatible, such as concentrators.
At this time, upgrade investment is better directed toward expanding the coverage area to leverage the established products than inventing new products or complicating the prequalification process. This is by upgrading the service paths themselves (removing concentrators) and also by adding stingers in neighbourhoods, or ports to COs.
However, hearing that there is a FITC initiative on the ground is encouraging.
gardener m: where do you live? (what community?) |
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joshb
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| said by blutoski :
However, hearing that there is a FITC initiative on the ground is encouraging.
They have had projects like this in the works for quite some time now....It's just that they do not get publicized...very often and most posters around here do not post such a statement....
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CR123
join:2006-11-04
Vancouver, BC | reply to blutoski
Times are changing - there is a substantial portion of the 3 big cities (Van, Ed, Cal) that qualify for over 10Mbps via ADSL2+, so I wouldn't say it's a 'minuscule' part - maybe in area, but not in population. |
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R1a
join:2003-03-07
Victoria, BC
| reply to Tikker_LoS
According to Verizon and the FTTH council FTTH is limited to
Engineering is greatly simplified, since PON technology is tied to an overall 20 km (12.4 mile) range between the CO/HE and subscriber. The length and attenuation of any one element (feeder, distribution and drop) has the same impact on the overall network. By contrast, the very fact that MDU ONTs have a copper element with a different bandwidth capability and delivery technology means that much closer attention must be paid to design. Furthermore, the optical network, which delivers video services over fiber to the individual living unit ONT, does not require the engineering of an RF network for the building (as does the MDU ONT approach).
20 KMS Holy Sh_t thats rockin.
Verzon is hoping for FTTH deployment to allmost 100,000,000 people by 2010.
WOW
The only limitations are wether you go FTTH or copper last mile and copper last my is plent fast ADSL ADSL2 or VDSL it all works with fiber obviously.
FTTH speeds depends on which Fiber size up to 100 gig of bandwidth = alot of potential clients.
»mysite.verizon.net/vzetw22d/fibe···Vol3.pdf |
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siberx4
Bandwidth hog
join:2004-10-19
West Vancouver, BC
| reply to Tikker_LoS
said by Tikker_LoS :said by psydfx : Will it be coming to your 40 year old house in your 80 year old neighbourhood anytime soon? Probably not.. but it is definitely being built into certain new subdivisions. fiber to the home will likely show up in the much older sections of town way before the newer sections of town (obviously this doesn't include the new subdivisions that had fiber installed as they were built) I always disliked the power poles, and overhead aerial drops until I realized that it was sooo much cheaper to run fiber From the couple vague press releases I saw about Telus' FTTH test, they were basically only looking at greenfield applications right now. I think it is very unlikely we'll be seeing this anytime soon in any area not already wired for fibre, considering how much telus recently invested in deploying its ADSL2+ network. Also, I think when they DO start laying fibre in existing areas for this, they'll be primarily concerned with population density and not an area's age when choosing where to deploy first. |
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netwerk
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join:2003-02-03
BC | I wonder if its more expensive to go aerial or go underground with GPON. |
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Tikker_LoS
join:2004-04-29
Regina, SK | directional boring in established neighbourhoods is exponentially more expensive than stringing fiber on existing poles |
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