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DaveNJ
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Re: Cable fan boys....

said by Matt See Profile :

I didn't say they WOULD lower prices ... I said they COULD. It's the only thing I can see them doing because even with DOCSIS 3.0 ... they won't be able to match most FiOS offerings.

They could also just not care. I have a BPON fiber connection from a regional ILEC and Time Warner hasn't raised the speeds nor lowered their pricing to compete.
But most cable still have a bit a leeway, even with docsis 1, they can do 10/10. With DS3, they can do 100/100. But the market hasnt drawn speeds that high yet. I would be happy if 25/25 were standard its more then i will ever need, and i would rather a low latency network, then to 100/100 high latency
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said by DaveNJ See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :

I didn't say they WOULD lower prices ... I said they COULD. It's the only thing I can see them doing because even with DOCSIS 3.0 ... they won't be able to match most FiOS offerings.

They could also just not care. I have a BPON fiber connection from a regional ILEC and Time Warner hasn't raised the speeds nor lowered their pricing to compete.
But most cable still have a bit a leeway, even with docsis 1, they can do 10/10. With DS3, they can do 100/100. But the market hasnt drawn speeds that high yet. I would be happy if 25/25 were standard its more then i will ever need, and i would rather a low latency network, then to 100/100 high latency
DOCSIS 1 can't do 10Mbps to an individual cable modem unless they put an individual cable modem on its own node. The maximum the Business Class folks even offer over a cable modem is 2Mbps here. If you want more upstream you have to purchase fiber from them.
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said by Matt See Profile :

DOCSIS 1 can't do 10Mbps to an individual cable modem unless they put an individual cable modem on its own node. The maximum the Business Class folks even offer over a cable modem is 2Mbps here. If you want more upstream you have to purchase fiber from them.
Docsis 1 is 10Mbps per channel. There can be multiple channels on a node. The channels are further split by slots, but of course that gets into shared bandwidth.
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said by halfband See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :

DOCSIS 1 can't do 10Mbps to an individual cable modem unless they put an individual cable modem on its own node. The maximum the Business Class folks even offer over a cable modem is 2Mbps here. If you want more upstream you have to purchase fiber from them.
Docsis 1 is 10Mbps per channel. There can be multiple channels on a node. The channels are further split by slots, but of course that gets into shared bandwidth.
You are correct, my apologies for using the incorrect terminology.

They still aren't going to allocate an entire channel for one customer ... even with oversubscription it's doubtful.
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