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Eat My Bacon

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Re: How "traffic shaping" will negatively impact neuroscience:

I'm having a hard time grasping this. You're relying on a P2P protocol to host and transfer the files? Why not use FTP? Or use a Website that links to an FTP? You're obviously not concerned with any type of authentication, so why hasn't that been used?

Plus, why would you use your home connection to transfer these large files when you have access to an educational link(s) and Internet 2 to transfer the files between you? And I know the University of Montreal has VPN, so you could access the network from home to transfer to your colleagues in other academic institutions.

I'm sorry, but there are flaws here in what your claiming.
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Re: How "traffic shaping" will negatively impact neuroscience:

said by Eat My Bacon :

I'm having a hard time grasping this. You're relying on a P2P protocol to host and transfer the files? Why not use FTP? Or use a Website that links to an FTP? You're obviously not concerned with any type of authentication, so why hasn't that been used?

Plus, why would you use your home connection to transfer these large files when you have access to an educational link(s) and Internet 2 to transfer the files between you? And I know the University of Montreal has VPN, so you could access the network from home to transfer to your colleagues in other academic institutions.

I'm sorry, but there are flaws here in what your claiming.
it doesn't matter why he does this or whether he's telling the truth or not. the point is there are probably hundreds of people who rely on their home internet being fully functional as part of their day to day work.

this does bring up an interesting point though. does anyone know if bell business accounts are also being throttled?

Eat My Bacon

@bell.ca

Re: How "traffic shaping" will negatively impact neuroscience:

Of course it matters. If you're going to accuse someone of doing something you have to ensure you can back it up with facts.

And I'll I'm saying is that there are better & faster alternatives (for him/her), versus using a residential connection and BitTorrent to transfer large files.

Most people here would kill for access to the Internet 2 network and this guy/girl is using DSL to do this?!?! Talk about wasting ressources!

Dr Basil G

@bell.ca

FTP is usually too slow and cumbersome for simultaneous downloads. Especially those that require frequent modifications/alterations/re-ups. Back when we did use to FTP, it seemed a total nuisance. Compare how google docs functions as opposed to sending pdfs back and forth, and you'll get my meaning.

VPN/PPTP is too platform-picky, and not everyone is every country can be expected to have the necessary commonality. Sometimes I'm sharing with people using Mac OS 9.2.

We started using P2P because it was the simplest option. I work from home for the exact same reason.

I hope that answers your concerns; I don't really have time to field any more of them!


Eat My Bacon

@bell.ca

Re: How "traffic shaping" will negatively impact neuroscience:

said by Dr Basil G :

I hope that answers your concerns; I don't really have time to field any more of them!


How convenient...

Anyhow, I still don't understand why you perceive FTP as usually too slow and cumbersome for simultaneous downloads if you have access to your Universities unlimited bandwidth/resources and so would the other countries and FTP is a standard that works across ALL platforms.

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said by Dr Basil G :

FTP is usually too slow and cumbersome for simultaneous downloads. Especially those that require frequent modifications/alterations/re-ups. Back when we did use to FTP, it seemed a total nuisance. Compare how google docs functions as opposed to sending pdfs back and forth, and you'll get my meaning.

VPN/PPTP is too platform-picky, and not everyone is every country can be expected to have the necessary commonality. Sometimes I'm sharing with people using Mac OS 9.2.

We started using P2P because it was the simplest option. I work from home for the exact same reason.

I hope that answers your concerns; I don't really have time to field any more of them!


This is very interesting. Our radiologists in this area do read CT, MRI and X-rays from home. In fact, I had a CT read within minutes once in the middle of the night. CT scans can't be that small. And all we have around here is Bell 5 meg down or Rogers cable internet. I've invited some Bell folks into this discussion. You raise some very interesting points. Thank you.
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