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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/373609"><b>espaeth</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Dezbend <A HREF="/useremail/u/372937"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>They use telephone your telephone number + customer code as your account number.  When you drop the number you would be assigned a fictitious account number.  You will need to resign up on embarq.com with this new account number.</div>I called in to ask about the status of the order and they gave me my new account number - I was able to get re-registered with that.   Also the dialtone is now gone as of this evening.  Now the only challenge is going to be to get Fastpath back again...<br><br>-Eric]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><b>orph4824</b></A> : My online account number changed automatically, paid my bill from embarqs online payment monday useing the new fictitous number and it went thru no problem. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/372937"><b>Dezbend</b></A> : They use telephone your telephone number + customer code as your account number.  When you drop the number you would be assigned a fictitious account number.  You will need to resign up on embarq.com with this new account number.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/pubgames">DSLr Mafia Member</a>.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/373609"><b>espaeth</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  orph4824 <A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>No more POTS telephone, seems they killed it a day ahead of what I was told..</div>According to Embarq my line was disconnected yesterday.  Today the line still has dialtone, can receive incoming calls, and the 800 number calls I tried went through.  It just won't die!!!<br><br>Have you been able to log into your online account on Embarq's site since the change was made?   I get an account retrieval error ever since yesterday when they said the disconnect went into effect in the system.<br><br>-Eric]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:58:13 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><b>orph4824</b></A> : HEHE I've been hangin out here so long as DSLR they should be chargeing me rent.. :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1457789"><b>B_DuB</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  orph4824 <A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> a dumb redneck. :D<br> </div> ! not another one!!!   been gone for awhile. Good to see your still here with that since of humor.<br>I talked to them back in August and it struck me weird that they said I would still have internet access if the power went out on my pot's.They just upgraded all the underground so that sounds right to me.  It's about time!!!!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/826634"><b>dav0r</b></A> : lol, yeah i hear you. i don't use qos because i rarely have more than a thing or two on at once. okay i lied i use wireless qos when my wife's surfing but it's less impacting than full qos on my router.<br><br>from the looks of your posts seems like you have a lot going on over there. that's cool though.  and TS doesn't make people sound as 'weird' as ventrilo haha. later.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><b>orph4824</b></A> : That's why I use bandwidth management I've got my own webserver, picture gallery, teamspeak and have bandwidth limit set on each protocol/port so theres a balance but what do I know I'm just a dumb redneck. :D<br><small>--<br><i>Life's 3 rules: 1. Stuff happens  2. Stuff happens on a regular basis  3. Better get used to the first two... (not the actual saying but you get the drift)</i></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/826634"><b>dav0r</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  orph4824 <A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>...the only thing I could see them doing *IF* they offered a VoIP product would be to move subscribers to fastpath.</div>Yeah Charter prioritized VOIP via port (so I heard) but cable has to fight way more near the home in some cases. I think users should be left to manage VOIP locally but it's a tough call because there is always some knob that blames a provider for things he/she is breaking or not understanding (I've been that knob more than once). Hard to say. I'm glad VOIP may lower ISP latency or more likely lower latency threshold TOS specifications.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:16:15 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/826634"><b>dav0r</b></A> : I hear you.  I looked into it more per Espaeth (I'm still pretty new so just got a 'real' bill this month).  I get a $5 credit that was thrown at me for -like you alluded to- the numerous complaints they likely receive about the extra charges.  I think I'm paying about $13 more tops for the POTS but I'll try a novel approach; honesty.  I'm sure it'll get me nowhere but I don't want to 'dink' around a provider - would rather have a fair relationship.  I've learned abusing the system is usually a very bad idea.  No I do not want to marry Embarq before someone replies with that drivel.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:08:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  orph4824 <A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>VoIP doesn't use much bandwidth at all, Embarq wouldn't prioritize VoIP or supply anything beyond your typical bandwidth tiers, the only thing I could see them doing *IF* they offered a VoIP product would be to move subscribers to fastpath. <br> </div>we don't know that, for certain. Comcast puts their VoIP on a different set of bandwidth (at least, so I've heard). There's a company around here that also does the same things. As for QoS...they could do if it they wanted to.<br><br>I'm not saying that "you're totally wrong, they would definitely do it", I'm just saying we don't really know what they'd do; given their track record, they probably wouldn't give you separate bandwidth or provide provider-end QoS, but you never know either.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:09:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><b>orph4824</b></A> : VoIP doesn't use much bandwidth at all, Embarq wouldn't prioritize VoIP or supply anything beyond your typical bandwidth tiers, the only thing I could see them doing *IF* they offered a VoIP product would be to move subscribers to fastpath. <br><small>--<br><i>Life's 3 rules: 1. Stuff happens  2. Stuff happens on a regular basis  3. Better get used to the first two... (not the actual saying but you get the drift)</i></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:39:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  orph4824 <A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I'd rather choose another provider for VoIP... I've looked at 3, vonage, viatalk, packet8.</div>I'll second that, I'm just saying they should offer it as a cheap alternative....after all, you never know; it could turn out to be awesome VoIP service (also, since they control the bandwidth, they could give a little extra bandwidth to those who have their VoIP). If done right, it'd be awesome, but if done wrong, it'd suck.<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Vectordirect <A HREF="/useremail/u/768171"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>The 10 dollar charge is for not having a qualified telephone bundle. My 5.0 service is regularly priced 54.95 and i get a 10 dollar credit for the bundled telephone service. With the naked DSL, I will be paying 10 dollars more,but losing the phone service for a net loss of about 40 dollars a month (long distance too).<br> </div>depends on how you look at it;<br><br>for some people, it'd be a net gain of $20.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/768171"><b>Vectordirect</b></A> : The 10 dollar charge is for not having a qualified telephone bundle. My 5.0 service is regularly priced 54.95 and i get a 10 dollar credit for the bundled telephone service. With the naked DSL, I will be paying 10 dollars more,but losing the phone service for a net loss of about 40 dollars a month (long distance too).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/603962"><b>StillLearn</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  espaeth <A HREF="/useremail/u/373609"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>EMBARQ high-speed Internet &#9;$34.95<br>EMBARQ Internet Access &#9;$10.00<br><br><b>HSI Total: $44.95</b><br><br></div>What is that charge for "Internet Access"?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:20:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/826634"><b>dav0r</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Vectordirect <A HREF="/useremail/u/768171"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>    :</small><br><br>My 5.0 download is supposed to come with 768 upload.All the speedtests I do indicate that 640 or so is what I have.<br> </div>They're running g_dmt mutli-mode. If you're using a 660 they changed my ADSL standard to get me up to 864 but it was a royal pain... took two hours and 3 people total time to get it changed/back up. Techs kept syncing at 896 and I was stuck at 768 but had previously gotten 864 (we're talking sync here not actual throughput, you lose about %15 of your throughput based on your sync).<br><br>So you're syncing at 5888/768 (896 would be your full '768' rate upload after loss/overhead) which turns into just over 5000 and 655'ish. Do us all a favor and complain about it like I did. I don't care what DSL standard they put me on and I don't care if I have to buy a dang modem to support the full rate but don't tell me 768 then knock me down 100kbps without saying anything. It's over now but I was ticked at the time.<br><br>With 5888/864 (I can't get that extra 32 for some reason but the test sets can that testers had here... I think the 660 sucks, personally) I get 5050/740 consistently on actual throughput testing.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><b>orph4824</b></A> : I'd rather choose another provider for VoIP... I've looked at 3, vonage, viatalk, packet8.<br><br>Both vonage and viatalk don't have any local access numbers and just found out about packet8 today from a friend they do have local numbers still researching. Back last year skype offers an unlimited outbound calling 12mos for $15 this year it goes to $30 still worth it and may renew that come January. Skype has a inbound account but like vonage and viatalk no local numbers and I'd like the service to computer independant to where I could hook up POTS devices like a fax machine etc, I've even given thought about an asterisk server, it's a voip server based on linux.<br><small>--<br><i>Life's 3 rules: 1. Stuff happens  2. Stuff happens on a regular basis  3. Better get used to the first two... (not the actual saying but you get the drift)</i></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:53:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/373609"><b>espaeth</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  orph4824 <A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>No more POTS telephone, seems they killed it a day ahead of what I was told..</div>I wasn't so lucky.  My line was supposed to go dead on Wednesday, but after things were still live today I called Embarq support.  Seems my order to cancel was withdrawn in the system, so the CSR I spoke with today put my request through again.  *fingers crossed*<br><br>-Eric]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  orph4824 <A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>*sings... "The Day the Dialtone Died"<br><br>No more POTS telephone, seems they killed it a day ahead of what I was told..Only thing now is since my DSL is naked... does it need a jacket??? :D<br> </div>nah; let it be "free to be" :-P<br><br>anyway, Embarq said they won't be offering this up front...but if enough people find out about this, and start spreading the word...perhaps they'll change their mind. (one thing they could do that would be smart is offer cheap VoIP service in addition/instead of POTS).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><b>orph4824</b></A> : *sings... "The Day the Dialtone Died"<br><br>No more POTS telephone, seems they killed it a day ahead of what I was told..Only thing now is since my DSL is naked... does it need a jacket??? :D<br><small>--<br><i>Life's 3 rules: 1. Stuff happens  2. Stuff happens on a regular basis  3. Better get used to the first two... (not the actual saying but you get the drift)</i></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Dezbend <A HREF="/useremail/u/372937"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Sales reps do not have this offer.  Negotiating at the point of sale will do nothing for you :(<br><br>I asked my friend about this and it appears that this offer is available in all areas with the pricing seen above.<br> </div>that sucks about signing up.<br><br>Ahh well, this just came out...hopefully by the time DSL is available here (I'm going to guess the soonest will be March of 2008....thought June-July seems more likely) things will have changed a bit. If they see naked DSL as something people like...well, you never know.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/372937"><b>Dezbend</b></A> : Sales reps do not have this offer.  Negotiating at the point of sale will do nothing for you :(<br><br>I asked my friend about this and it appears that this offer is available in all areas with the pricing seen above.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/pubgames">DSLr Mafia Member</a>.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  orph4824 <A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Told them I was dropping service for a better deal from Comcast and that I never used the POTS anyhow(that being the truth).<br> </div>ahhh....I'll probably have to try for an alternative approach (I won't like)...<br><br>My approach would probably be this, "Well, I'm thinking a bout signing up, but I just don't know; EVDO is a little cheaper, and I don't have a need for a phone-line....is there anything I could do to not get a phoneline?"<br><br>All would be 100% true (EVDO is $50.90 for me after taxes) and I'd probably go for, at the least 5 meg...so....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><b>orph4824</b></A> : Told them I was dropping service for a better deal from Comcast and that I never used the POTS anyhow(that being the truth).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  orph4824 <A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I called in as espaeth suggest and sure enough my dialtone should become a flatline as of Friday, awesome deal!<br> </div>what, exactly did you say? Did you threaten or just ask for it?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><b>orph4824</b></A> : I called in as espaeth suggest and sure enough my dialtone should become a flatline as of Friday, awesome deal!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Vectordirect <A HREF="/useremail/u/768171"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>My wife and I signed up for this today. We called and told them that we were considering switching to a WISP since the cost was less and we didn't need a phone line. The retention rep offered us the 5.0 plan alone for 54.95 a month with no voice. We took it and it should be effective before Monday.<br> </div>wow; that's great. If this pattern keeps up, Embarq will have a very nice naked DSL deal going on; many of the other telco's charge you a bit to have naked DSL; it doesn't look like Embarq will be charging you anything extra.<br><br>I'll be looking forward to this once 10/1 rolls around.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/768171"><b>Vectordirect</b></A> : My wife and I signed up for this today. We called and told them that we were considering switching to a WISP since the cost was less and we didn't need a phone line. The retention rep offered us the 5.0 plan alone for 54.95 a month with no voice. We took it and it should be effective before Monday.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:45:17 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : that's a royal steal...erm, deal!<br><br>Basically the price you pay for the 10 meg package is $54.95 if you have the $30 phone package....or $64.95 for if you have a package less than $30.....<br><br>So realistically,there's no extra price tacked on; it's like paying the full price, but without the additional charges of a phone line.<br><br>if this turns out to be true, man oh man; this will be an awesome deal!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/611455"><b>skj</b></A> : This has not been confirmed, but here is what I have been told are the prices for Embarq Naked DSL:<br><br>768 K<br>$29.95<br><br>1.5 M<br>$34.95<br><br>3.0 M<br>$44.95<br><br>5.0 M<br>$54.95<br><br>10.0 M <br>$64.95<br><small>--<br><br> <br> The foundations of character are built not by lecture, but by bricks of good example, laid day by day.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:17:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/373609"><b>espaeth</b></A> : I don't have a qualifying phone bundle to get the $10 discount, so it actually shows up as a separate $10 charge on my bill to get up to the non-discounted rate.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:33:40 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  espaeth <A HREF="/useremail/u/373609"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>From my last bill:<br><br>EMBARQ high-speed Internet &#9;$34.95<br>EMBARQ Internet Access &#9;$10.00<br><br><b>HSI Total: $44.95</b><br> </div>Why teh separate charges for HSI and access?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:31:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/373609"><b>espaeth</b></A> : Did you call or just use the online chat?    I called the support number (1 888.723.8010), entered my telephone number, and selected "cancel service or features" (option 3?) which got me transfered to the retention department.  The rep did state that it was only going to be offered as a save to prevent losing you as a customer altogether.  It might be that the online chat folks don't have the ability to offer it?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:05:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><b>orph4824</b></A> : Lucky you espaeth. just got off chat with them and they say "Direct DSL" isn't available in all areas... so how much more is Embarq gonna milk out from POTS.<br><br>EDIT: In fact that so annoyed me I just set call forwarding to a freebie voicemail service and went and disconnected all my POTS phones, I'll just wait and drop POTS when I can.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:24:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/171387"><b>scooper</b></A> : Let's rephrase that - <br>We currently use Virgin Mobile (which uses Sprint PCS' network). I didn't think they would let us use that.<br><br>Just checked the website / link - not yet available here.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:57:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/373609"><b>espaeth</b></A> : I've been looking at StoneBridge wireless ( &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.sbwireless.net" >www.sbwireless.net</A> ) as an alternative lately since they have a package deal they've offered to employees of my company where I can get 3/1mbps service for $55/mo.   Pretty much on-par with what I'm paying for Embarq HSI but without the extra voice costs.<br><br>Since I had my alternative lined up I called in today to cancel service, and the whole experience went quite well.   The first question my rep asked was if I was displeased with the service, and I explained that I was actually very pleased with the HSI service but the dialtone that I was required to buy to have access to it made it more expensive than my wireless alternative.  She told me that there was an option where she could just offer me the HSI service, but she cautioned me that I would lose my reliable POTS access with e911.   I accepted the risk and asked to move forward with removing dialtone.   What's interesting is my rep stated there was no line access charge, and that I would be simply billed for the HSI service plus applicable taxes.<br><br>My next bill is 12/6 -- we'll see what things look like then.<br><br>-Eric<br><br>P.S.  One fun anecdote to go with the reliable PSTN service:   I have Viatalk VoIP service, and for home Internet access I have both Embarq DSL and Comcast HSI.  Back in September there was an issue with Embarq's network in my area that knocked out DSL, my dialtone on my POTS line, *AND* the SprintPCS cell tower by me went dead so I had no cell coverage.   I would have lost all phone service for 4 hours had it not been for Viatalk over Comcast Internet.  POTS reliability usually is great, but even the phone company isn't immune from things breaking.  News about the outage is here:  &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.startribune.com/462/story/1397905.html" >www.startribune.com/462/story/1397905.html</A><br><br><b><small>Edit:</b> Just fixing spelling errors and correcting sentence structure.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/826634"><b>dav0r</b></A> : Yeah I'll have to check my bill. I think the $9 should be a flat fee (just the 9) then disable the line for any calls. They can totally do that but I bet they just don't want to do so.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:27:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/373609"><b>espaeth</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  scooper <A HREF="/useremail/u/171387"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>"Going Naked" might be OK - if our cell phone service (Sprint PCS) was reliable enough. Until then - the wired phoneline will not be leaving my house.</div>&raquo;<A HREF="http://airave.sprint.com/" >airave.sprint.com/</A><br><br>Having your own micro cell site in your house than uses your broadband connection could change that.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:05:16 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/373609"><b>espaeth</b></A> : From my last bill:<br><br>Measured local phone service  &#9;$9.00<br>Extended Calling Area  &#9;$3.75<br>Federal universal service fund &#9;$.68<br>Federal Tax &#9;$.48<br>State Sales Tax &#9;$1.28<br>County Tax &#9;$.03<br>Relay/911/Tele Assist fee $0.73<br>Interstate access surcharge &#9;$6.22<br><br><b>Voice total:  $22.17</b><br><br>EMBARQ high-speed Internet &#9;$34.95<br>EMBARQ Internet Access &#9;$10.00<br><br><b>HSI Total: $44.95</b><br><br><i>Complete bill</i>:  <b>$67.12</b><br><br>So in order to get my $44.95 HSI service I have to pay $22.17/mo for a "$9" phone line I don't use. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:00:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/826634"><b>dav0r</b></A> : Ah mine is not truly naked then... it's like just topless, I suppose. I have to pay the $9 but that's it. I think there is tone on the line and I remember them saying I'd be killed with charges if I terminated a call with it. I stand corrected. Makes sense that they get at least $5/month for it because they laid down the wires.<br><br>My cell service is free from work so yes I hear you. I always have to tell people not to give me the VOIP sales pitch.<br><br>SO... they're saying they'll cover the fee from the telco for you... I get it.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:45:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/171387"><b>scooper</b></A> : "Going Naked" might be OK - if our cell phone service (Sprint PCS) was reliable enough. Until then - the wired phoneline will not be leaving my house.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:45:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  dav0r <A HREF="/useremail/u/826634"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>My DSL was born naked. Is this not common or you're unable to switch if you had POTS service @ onset?<br><br>Also to the other poster they discussed the 10 meg being available here (didn't state the upload but guessing 1) and even indicated that the 5/5 may roll out in my area next year (like Nevada). He also noted that they can select some users to test it free of charge for a duration that is usually a few months for beta testing. I told him to flag my account for that! :o<br> </div>If/when a DSLAM is deployed at my RT, I hope that some of the newer technologies are deployed (especially 10/1...which isn't really 10/1...it's more like 10 meg down and 896k up, but it's easier to just call it 10/1)....since it's a fiber-fed, RT, I'd say I definitely stand a chance....though being out in the country? *Shrug* I dunno.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/373609"><b>espaeth</b></A> : Last year they refused to let me order DSL without getting dialtone.  I currently have $9 metered voice service that ends up being $20 after the extended area service fees and taxes are added in.  Considering I have Viatalk VoIP service and a cell phone, that's $20 of dead weight I'd love to lose from my bill.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:30:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/826634"><b>dav0r</b></A> : My DSL was born naked. Is this not common or you're unable to switch if you had POTS service @ onset?<br><br>Also to the other poster they discussed the 10 meg being available here (didn't state the upload but guessing 1) and even indicated that the 5/5 may roll out in my area next year (like Nevada). He also noted that they can select some users to test it free of charge for a duration that is usually a few months for beta testing. I told him to flag my account for that! :o]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:12:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/611455"><b>skj</b></A> : Hopefully someone will call and post back here with the details.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : Wow! What an awesome step! This "no DSL for years" could turn out to be a huge blessing when it's deployed here....10/1 the possibility of newer equipment being used (and thus, fastpath), and now the possibility of naked DSL.<br><br>Hopefully Embarq will see this as the future and offer naked DSL for little to no extra cost.<br><br>any other details? For example, the pricing for naked DSL?<br><br>man oh man, I hope DSL gets deployed here next year!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/377086"><b>orph4824</b></A> : I've so wanted naked DSL for the longest time, may have to call and cancel service :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/611455"><b>skj</b></A> : That is all the information I have at this time.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/616961"><b>UncleScooter</b></A> : Any details?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/611455"><b>skj</b></A> : My inside source informs me that Embarq has started reactively offering naked DSL as a retention offer only. There will be no advertising and it will only be available if no other save offer appeals to customers.<br><small>--<br><br> <br> The foundations of character are built not by lecture, but by bricks of good example, laid day by day.</small>]]></description>
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