jesup
join:1999-10-18
Malvern, PA
| reply to EricTheDuke
Re: how to opt out of Verizon's DNS not found page
Here in Malvern, PA, Verizon's FIOS DNS servers don't seem to do anything funny with "bad" DNS addresses, as of 1/26/2008. Perhaps the previous reports were due to a test-market of the concept in a few regions, or it was since dropped. I'd note that the last post on this thread (until today) was in November. I seem to get 404's, and I'm using the default (DHCP) xxxx.12 DNS servers. |
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KenAF
join:2006-01-23
Arlington, VA
| reply to N O Y B
said by N O Y B  :Read the TOS again. But this time do not skip section 15.6. I know by the time you get that far your eyes have long since glazed over. But it is there. Along with how to opt out. » www.verizon.net/updates Why don't you just quote it for anyone? |
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EricTheDuke
@verizon.net | reply to birdfeedr
thanks birdfeedr! Your instructions worked perfectly. Much more clear than Verizon's instructions and being correct didn't hurt either! Thanks again. |
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birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to EricTheDuke
said by EricTheDuke :
pauldy, I've already tried changing the DNS servers to .14 like the Verizon website says, but that makes both DNS point to the same server and the router won't accept it.
assuming you have the actiontec router...
log in to the router, go to My Network, Network Connections, click Full Status, make note (write it down) what the DNS addresses are for the connection you use to the internet. It may be ethernet or it may be coax depending on your installation. You will have two DNS addresses listed. Likely the last octet of each is .12, the second octet of each address will be different, the first and third octets will be the same.
before the change, my DNS addresses were 71.243.0.12 and 71.250.0.12
after the change, they were 71.243.0.14 and 71.250.0.14
Now that you've written them down, then go to make the changes...
in the status table you've been looking at, click on the name of the connection for your internet. Click Settings, change the drop-down for DNS Server to "Use The Following DNS addresses.", then fill in the following address block for primary and secondary. Enter the same numbers you wrote down, except make the last octet .14, then apply the settings.
If it doesn't work, make a note of where it went wrong, and get back to us. |
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N O Y B
St. John 3.16
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
| reply to pauldy
said by pauldy :
The answer about verizons TOS being the answer is just a sa answer to a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place I read through it and it doesn't state they will use dns to redirect users to search pages if you typo a url. In fact the closest it comes to the subject is the section on users not spoofing urls which is exactly what they are doing. I'm curious if you found the actual answer to the question or if you can point to the original answer you found that didn't work. I think whoever thought this was a good idea should be fired on the spot this is the type of behavior I expect from low life spammers but not my network provider.
Read the TOS again. But this time do not skip section 15.6. I know by the time you get that far your eyes have long since glazed over. But it is there. Along with how to opt out.
»www.verizon.net/updates
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N O Y B
St. John 3.16
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
| reply to EricTheDuke
said by EricTheDuke :
Are you trying to say it's against TOS to do this? Because Verizon has instructions on their website how to do this. It's just that their instructions are wrong.
No. I am saying the answer to your original question of how to opt out can be found in the TOS. Specifically section 15.6 or you could just search the TOS for URL.
»www.verizon.net/updates
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GeekNJ
Premium
join:2000-09-23
Waldwick, NJ
| reply to EricTheDuke
Yes, it worked fine for me. I have he Dlink and set the DNS to .14 (vs the .12 they were). Below are the values from the Status tab in the Dlink:
WAN
Connection: PPPoE Connected
IP Address: 71.172.xxx.yyy
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway: 71.172.xxx.yyy
DNS: 71.250.0.14 71.242.0.14
If I type in »www.domaindoesntexist.com I get a Server Not Found browser page.
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EricTheDuke
@verizon.net | reply to EricTheDuke
pauldy, I've already tried changing the DNS servers to .14 like the Verizon website says, but that makes both DNS point to the same server and the router won't accept it. |
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noping
no route to host
Premium
join:2007-01-09
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to EricTheDuke
»Since when did Verizon start Advertising on busted URLs?
»[northeast] DNS hijacking in effect (new)
said by KCrimson :I think the directions that FiOS is giving to change the default DNS server are flawed. I didn't get any change until I edited the Broadband (in my case /MOCA, in others /Ethernet depending on how your router was hooked up) setting, NOT the Home/Office DNS setting, as the directions say. |
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pauldy
@verizon.net
| reply to EricTheDuke
Here is how you fix it. Go into your router find the dns entries it is using for the wan connection. Take those change the last two digits form .12 to .14 and place them on your local connection. I think this practice is about the most dishonest one I've seen yet from a provider It breaks all kinds of things without a bit of thought to it and proves while Verizon has the best network around in the US it has no ethics when it comes to its integrity. Who knows what else they are doing on it that you can't see as obviously as this. |
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pauldy
@verizon.net
| reply to EricTheDuke
I'm trying to figure out the same thing, services like opendns are the same bs where they decide if you mistype something if you get their search page or not. They also decide if the url you typed in is "malware" or not and redirect you as well. The answer about verizons TOS being the answer is just a sa answer to a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place I read through it and it doesn't state they will use dns to redirect users to search pages if you typo a url. In fact the closest it comes to the subject is the section on users not spoofing urls which is exactly what they are doing. I'm curious if you found the actual answer to the question or if you can point to the original answer you found that didn't work. I think whoever thought this was a good idea should be fired on the spot this is the type of behavior I expect from low life spammers but not my network provider. |
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EricTheDuke
@verizon.net | reply to N O Y B
Are you trying to say it's against TOS to do this? Because Verizon has instructions on their website how to do this. It's just that their instructions are wrong. |
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N O Y B
St. John 3.16
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR | reply to EricTheDuke
The answer to your question is in the TOS or AUP located here:
»www.verizon.net/updates
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nycdave
Premium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
1 edit | reply to EricTheDuke
Use other DNS servers, like OpenDNS. |
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EricTheDuke
@verizon.net
|  Has anyone been able to configure their router correctly to opt out of this DNS page? I followed the directions posted on the Verizon website but I can't get it to work. I end up having the primary and secondary DNS servers pointing to the same address and the router won't allow that. |
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