DotMac
Shill H8r
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join:2007-10-26
Huntington Beach, CA | reply to jc100
Re: Sounds fair to me
I would say yes in that grandma should be supervising it's use.
And if she happens to slip up in that supervision she gets 2 warnings first. |
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
| Well that's a different argument Dot. Grandma WOULD NOT be liable if said person who stole it was over 18. Criminal charges would be filed and her grandchild would be solely liable as that's Grand Theft. Now if you argue the fact the kid is a minor, then it's tricky. Yes, grandma shouldn't let their kids on the computer unsupervised. Yet, how many Kids know 100000000000x more about pcs than their parents. That's where the problem arises. The parents might be good intentioned and watching their kid. However, they lack the understanding to know everything or prevent certain activities. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
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| said by jc100  : Yet, how many Kids know 100000000000x more about pcs than their parents. That's where the problem arises. The parents might be good intentioned and watching their kid. However, they lack the understanding to know everything or prevent certain activities. Excellent point. My problem is this "Under the agreement -- drawn up by a commission headed by the chief executive of FNAC, one of France's biggest music and film retailers -- service providers will issue warning messages to customers downloading files illegally.
If users ignore those messages, their accounts could be suspended or closed altogether"
Thats the equivalent of having the RIAA make our Internet use laws. That shouldn't happen. Not to mention the Artists that CHOOSE to give out free music. Will they be even further blackballed be their respective recording industry? |
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DotMac
Shill H8r
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join:2007-10-26
Huntington Beach, CA
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This isn't about grand theft. This is an ISP after 2 warnings canceling service. It seems perfectly reasonable to me.
As it stands now in the US, the RIAA could simply file suit against grandma and they'd win (as we just saw a mom go down in court flames recently) no matter who "really" did it. |
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DotMac
Shill H8r
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Huntington Beach, CA
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said by S_engineer :Thats the equivalent of having the RIAA make our Internet use laws. Sounds like the DMCA.
At least in France you'll get a few warnings before the extortion letter arrives. |
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Piggie
I Actually use Windstream
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Orange Springs, FL
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said by S_engineer : My problem is this "Under the agreement -- drawn up by a commission headed by the chief executive of FNAC, one of France's biggest music and film retailers Least all the legal eagles not forget here, yes, pirating works that are copyrighted is not legal but smell the money trail. With RIAA making about 4 times per song sold in America than the artist, who is the copyright protecting?
Of course it's protecting the RIAA's money not the author's song works or rather protecting the RIAA four times a much.
Also beware and very scared anytime large cooperate interests control law making.
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