  monte081
@teksavvy.com
| Profile/speed based caps?
My previous attempt was lost in the long topic that is now locked. I would appreciate if someone from teksavvy would consider and comment on the topic.
Has the time come for you guys (and other ISP's) to consider introducing a service that is between "lite" and "premium/unlimited"?
For those of us who are on a bad link, and/or who prefer to be capped by rate instead of the bandwidth, such an offering would be a welcome change.
I have static IP and the only reason why I wont "unlimited" is to eliminate possibility that DDOS attack launched against my IP while I am on three weeks of vacation spells financial trouble in addition to bringing my services down. I don't mind lower (download!) profile speeds, and I am not into massive downloads and P2P networks. As good upload speeds as it is possible are of interest, as is "unlimited" service.
Kindly consider. Rate capping would be innovation, something that I expect from "small" and agile ISP such as TSI. |
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  TSI Rick TSI Rick Premium,VIP join:2007-02-17 Merlin, ON | Unfortunately this is all in Bell's court....They offer us either lite or upto 5meg. There is no middle grounds on this... -- TSI Rick - TekSavvy Solutions Inc. |
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  monte081
@teksavvy.com
| reply to monte081 Darn. And, of course, your equipment does not have rate limiting capability on your end.
Thanks for the answer, although I can not suppress bitter remarks on Bell/Nexxia tactics here. Every time that they up the profile speed, small ISP's, their competition, face a mini-crisis, since the maximum bandwidth that pipe can deliver increases against the break even price of bandwidth that those ISP's can tolerate.
That is why I am concerned about your capability (because it is not you who control this game) to continue offering "unlimited" in the future. If Bell introduced 10 M down profile instead of 7 that is planned (for) now, the price of "unlimited" would be way out of reach for most of the customers, right? |
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  Angelo_ The Network Guy Premium join:2002-06-18 | reply to TSI Rick i wouldn't be too concerned about a DOS attack as it can be easily detected by an ISP... |
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  Angelo_ The Network Guy Premium join:2002-06-18
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| counts what do you consider reasonable i for one am fine with 1tb for a 20 meg line... and i'd have lots of bandwidth unused still...
as you get faster speeds more bandwidth does get used .. but it isn't that bad as bell makes it out to be. a real 10 meg line at 100 a month (unlimited) i consider reasonable.. assumming its a quality connection.. If it was like rogers that would be unreasonable and i wouldn't pay past 44...
to counter my own comment i am a firm beliver in SLA agreements and knowingly these don't come cheap (nor to the home user at all!). So with that said i dare all you guys to come out with a 10/10 sla connection :P, hell even a 3/3 SLA is fine with me!
*looks into poor pockets for a dime* |
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  Moonlight_x
@videotron.ca
| reply to monte081 said by monte081 :
That is why I am concerned about your capability (because it is not you who control this game) to continue offering "unlimited" in the future. If Bell introduced 10 M down profile instead of 7 that is planned (for) now, the price of "unlimited" would be way out of reach for most of the customers, right? Most of the people who go with Unlimited now only do so because they are near or beyond the 200GB mark or simply do not wish to bother checking their usage. In all but the most exceptional cases, they still fall a long way short from maxing their line 24/7 and even if you provided them 10X more bandwidth, the majority would still fall short from doubling their usage.
So, line speed is generally unlikely to become a problematic issue any time soon after the Jan. 1 $10 Unlimited hike to $40/month. In September, the Unlimited average was 55GB/month. It climbed to 88GB/month for October. With most low/moderate-usage Unlimited people switching to Premium, the Unlimited average should shoot up to 200-250GB/month no later than February but the $10/month hike should safeguard Unlimited until that average reaches 400GB/month.
The Unlimited average will be a fast-moving target but its ascent should taper off not far beyond the 300GB/month mark (in large part thanks to the "must make the extra $10 worth it" mindset) and I expect the climb from there to 400GB/month to take about a year. By then, bandwidth prices should have gone down a little, enough to buy TSI a few more months to plan their next move. (But they'll most likely already be on it before 350GB/month.)
The $10 hike was a preemptive strike against speed increases and heavy user take-up from ex-Bell/Videotron/etc. subscribers to give TSI the means of accommodating increased data rates and overall traffic for the foreseeable future. Unless TSI goofs up, you should not need to worry.
The next "hike" from TSI is likely to be Premium/Unlimited Plus/Ultra options or some other such after the CRTC forces telcos to open ADSL2. It would be nice to have $5 8/1 "Plus" and $10 16/1.2 "Ultra" ADSL2 upgrades for Premium and Unlimited. Many people would also be interested in ADSL2 for its longer reach, lower latency and improved link reliability. This will probably be accompanied by a 6Mbps profile upgrade (CRTC rules refresh) for people who do cannot have or do not want (to pay for) ADSL2 profiles. Once that happens, I would certainly be interested in the 8000/1000 ADSL2 option should I be unable to get satisfactorily stable 6000/800 ADSL1. |
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