kalphearion
In nomine Patri
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Denver, CO
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November 26th, @10:24AM
|  Boneheads!
Just another boneheaded move from a boneheaded company.
I can see why ATT would do this to get people to convert from Dial Up to DSL, but why screw the people whose only form of internet connection is Dial up? |
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N3OGH
Will it all be Obama's fault now?
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Philly burbs | Once again AT&T steps on it's dick.
Why am I not surprised???
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exocet_cm
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join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
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| reply to kalphearion
You beat me to the punch.
North Louisiana zip code 71483 has no high speed except for right in the city, 5 miles out of the city and NO high speed.
Nice going on vacation to see the family up there but no high-speed Internet...
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
·Cruzio Internet
| reply to kalphearion
said by kalphearion  :Just another boneheaded move from a boneheaded company. I can see why ATT would do this to get people to convert from Dial Up to DSL, but why screw the people whose only form of internet connection is Dial up? Yep, this reminds me of when they dropped all thier long distance customer contracts, boneheads.
A bean counter must have had a proposal that saves them 20c.
Does this mean they can get naked dial-u:p now? j/k
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
·AT&T Southeast
·Mediacom
| reply to kalphearion
said by kalphearion :but why screw the people whose only form of internet connection is Dial up? AT&T isn't the only dial-up ISP. When consumers begin voting with their wallets instead of whining, then everyone wins. |
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs: | I have to agree you could always get dial-up with another comapny. Just flip them the bird on the way out.
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Mike
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join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
clubs: | reply to kalphearion
This is really good for the local ISP. |
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Jason Levine
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join:2001-07-13
Albany, NY
| reply to exocet_cm
But if one person has high speed in that zip code then that means that everyone in that zip code has high speed! Or are you calling the FCC's methodology for measuring broadband penetration incorrect?  |
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JokerCPoC
join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA
·Verizon west (ex G..
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to MysticGogeta
said by MysticGogeta :I have to agree you could always get dial-up with another company. Just flip them the bird on the way out. I can think of three Dial-up ISPs right off the bat, PeoplePC, NetZero and AOL.
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Siryak
join:2005-11-26
 ·WildBlue
| said by JokerCPoC :said by MysticGogeta :I have to agree you could always get dial-up with another company. Just flip them the bird on the way out. I can think of three Dial-up ISPs right off the bat, PeoplePC, NetZero and AOL. Barf! Please tell me you did not just say AOL!!! aka AOhelL Also kind of defeats to purpose to switch to a provide that cost even more... |
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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League City, TX
clubs: | NetZero and PeoplePC are good. I used to have a local one called EveryOnes Internet they were great for 10 bucks a month.
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TnDialup
@bellsouth.net
| reply to Jason Levine
said by Jason Levine :But if one person has high speed in that zip code then that means that everyone in that zip code has high speed! Or are you calling the FCC's methodology for measuring broadband penetration incorrect? I don't know if I'd call their methodology incorrect, but it's at least unrealistic. My zip code is covered for DSL except on my road, where Bellsouth/AT&T tells me that the wiring is too old to support the service, and it'll probably be YEARS before that changes, if ever. So for the time being, DSL is only available to houses more than 1/4 mile south of my address.
Of course, when I moved here in 1999, they told me that I'd have DSL with 6 months. I stopped holding my breath a long time ago.....  |
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gouged
@blutmagie.de
| reply to kalphearion
I live in the "Bellsouth" AT&T region and the letter I got from AT&T said my Bellsouth/AT&T dial-up would increase from $14.95 to $22.95 per month starting December 8th, 2007. With the almost $30.00 with taxes I pay for the land line I *never* use, that is over fifty dollars for dial-up.
I canceled and opened a cheaper dial-up. I'm waiting for the mandatory $19.95 stand alone 768kbps with a free/supplied modem that will be offered about mid January 2008 (one year after the AT&T purchase of Bellsouth). That is according to the agreement/settlement the FCC made with AT&T for the purchase of Bellsouth.
I see this as a move to push current dial-up customers to DSL before the mandatory $19.95 kicks in. When I called they offered me 768kbps for $19.95 plus a $15.00 line charge with a $10.00 rebate making it $24.95 total.
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T1 Rocky
join:2002-11-15
Dallas, TX
 ·tw telecom
·ygnitionnet
| reply to Mike
The local ISP? AT&T put them out of business with dsl 5 years ago. In 5 years I will bet anything that dsl will be twice as expensive, and I bet that the cable companies will be bought for pennies on the dollar in the next 3 years by the telcos. The monopoly will be reinstated, the lobbyists will make sure of it. |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
·Cruzio Internet
| said by T1 Rocky :The local ISP? AT&T put them out of business with dsl 5 years ago. In 5 years I will bet anything that dsl will be twice as expensive, and I bet that the cable companies will be bought for pennies on the dollar in the next 3 years by the telcos. The monopoly will be reinstated, the lobbyists will make sure of it. My local ISP survived till they were able to resell Att circuits, they probly have more dial-up customers than DSL.
My account comes with nationwide dial-up backup.
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‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
Solon |
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T1 Rocky
join:2002-11-15
Dallas, TX
·tw telecom
·ygnitionnet
| Kudos to them for surviving and kudos to you for supporting them. The telcos allow ISP's to sell their dsl service but they charge more for the line and going through an outside ISP then if you went with them for both the line and the ISP. In other words, it's $45 to get dsl with ISP service through AT&T/Verizon. But it's $50 to get just the dsl line through AT&T/Verizon. Therefore,if the ISP wants to compete on price, they have to pay all of their dsl customers $5 per month, hence the reason most of the local ISP's went out of business.
If people would have recognized and supported their local ISP's 5 years ago, then AT&T wouldn't have been able to make this move now. But you can't fault the consumer for saving a dime in the short term. But the few remaining dial up users are going to pay for those savings 5 years ago now - or upgrade to dsl. And there is no $9 dsl as advertised in the commercials. That rate only applies if you get phone service and at least 3 calling plans and the absolute minimum you can get out paying for AT&T dsl is $55 per month. |
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bicker
join:2007-05-10
Burlington, MA
| reply to openbox9
said by openbox9 :said by kalphearion :but why screw the people whose only form of internet connection is Dial up? AT&T isn't the only dial-up ISP. When consumers begin voting with their wallets instead of whining, then everyone wins. Including AT&T, and I think that's something that some folks don't get: All customers aren't always worth the same, and often the level of the customers' technology indicates how profitable servicing that customer is. A year or two ago, one of the major cellular telephone companies boosted prices significantly for their customers using old technology telephones. This was the right move for them: It prompted those customers to find another service provider, so that cellular telephone company no longer had to deal with the overhead of so many low-margin customers.
People often overestimate the importance of satisfying every customer. Businesses have to focus on their #1 priority, which is satisfying the demands of their owners, and sometimes that means picking which customers they want to serve. There are no sacred cows. |
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NwkEWR
Exile is NOT Immigration
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Newark, NJ
·Optimum Online
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November 27th, @06:32PM
| said by bicker :said by openbox9 :said by kalphearion :but why screw the people whose only form of internet connection is Dial up? AT&T isn't the only dial-up ISP. When consumers begin voting with their wallets instead of whining, then everyone wins. Including AT&T, and I think that's something that some folks don't get: All customers aren't always worth the same, and often the level of the customers' technology indicates how profitable servicing that customer is. A year or two ago, one of the major cellular telephone companies boosted prices significantly for their customers using old technology telephones. This was the right move for them: It prompted those customers to find another service provider, so that cellular telephone company no longer had to deal with the overhead of so many low-margin customers. People often overestimate the importance of satisfying every customer. Businesses have to focus on their #1 priority, which is satisfying the demands of their owners, and sometimes that means picking which customers they want to serve. There are no sacred cows. You're correct bicker, in my case I received the notification of the price increase on 29th October, curiously though, my rate is being increased by just $1.00, I keep the account as a holdover from the Prodigy era (Early 1990s) and use it primarily (via OOL broadband) for contents and eMail and secondarily as a backup in case my Optimum Online broadband goes down.
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
·Cingular Wireless
| reply to N3OGH
said by N3OGH :Once again AT&T steps on it's dick. that is impossible. they stepped on something, but it wasn't their dick....that would be giving them too much credit. |
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voiplover
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Portsmouth, NH
·Axvoice
| reply to Jason Levine
Since AT&T doesn't want your business, look elsewhere.
Try Fry's free 30 day trail on their $5.99/month dialup!
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