 rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| Corporate Apologists Where are the pro-corporate posters now? We are officially a third world nation when it comes to deploying technology. Amazing. Never thought I would see that. We are equal with Africa and the Middle East. Well what do you pro Verizon, Comcast cheer leaders have to say now? |
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 telcolackey5The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA | US dominance in broadband? Is that what you think is important to keep America a super power? Will 100Mbps fix our issues? Perhaps we should work like other countries and have the government fund infrastructure since they want to regulate it.
Where should it go on the list of where our tax dollar is spent?
• Defense (pesky terrorists)
• Health and human services, SS, Medicare
• Education
• Renewable energy and other R&D |
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 TechieZeroTools Are Using MePremium
join:2002-01-25
Gibsonton, FL
 ·Verizon FiOS
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said by rit56:Where are the pro-corporate posters now? We are officially a third world nation when it comes to deploying technology. Amazing. Never thought I would see that. We are equal with Africa and the Middle East. Well what do you pro Verizon, Comcast cheer leaders have to say now? We are a 3rd world nation...really? We are equal w/ Africa and the Middle east? With what? Everything? Some might call you a jackass for making generalized statements like this. I will just leave it to your imagination.
I also like that large corporations (which are made up of people BTW, not Toon-Town Cogs) exist elsewhere in the world. Additionally, a good amount of market saturation exists for broadband products here. People who want it, have it or have moved to where they can get it. I don't see much of a *PERCENTAGE* leap. If you have 1000 people in the middle of BFE increase to 2000+, well that's better than a 100 percent increase. If you have a few hundred MILLION here, and we add another several million...well that isn't a lot percentage wise, eh smart guy?
Also...the problem with all of our speculations, is we don't know how they got their data or what they are measuring as well. I suspect that wireless data is growing far more than this and I wonder if this data reflects this or is even considered. |
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NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:4 Reviews:
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said by rit56:Where are the pro-corporate posters now? We are officially a third world nation when it comes to deploying technology. Amazing. Never thought I would see that. We are equal with Africa and the Middle East. Well what do you pro Verizon, Comcast cheer leaders have to say now? Give me a choice between 50Mbps at $38.88, 8Mbps at $29.83, and 3Mbps at $24.99, and I will take $24.99 any day of the week.
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»www.att.com/gen/general?pid=6431
Oh. Wait. I am already paying $24.99 for 'at&t Yahoo! HSI' Pro.
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~Oh Lord, why have you come
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said by telcolackey5:US dominance in broadband? Is that what you think is important to keep America a super power? Will 100Mbps fix our issues? Perhaps we should work like other countries and have the government fund infrastructure since they want to regulate it. Where should it go on the list of where our tax dollar is spent? • Defense (pesky terrorists) • Health and human services, SS, Medicare • Education • Renewable energy and other R&D With the current administration, I'd have to say only the first one matters... |
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telcolackey5The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA
1 edit | What will we do without 100Mbps???
How will we address the terrorist "folks" with our DoS weapons?
How will we make people healthier by keeping their pasty skin out of the sun? Just think of all the porn they can download to address their ED issues?? All that free and soothing music.
We need 100Mbps NOW to improve the education of future generations through high bandwidth information sources like YouTube and Facebook!!
And imagine all the R&D we can do via p2p. Finding ways to create counter and counter-counter measures with encryption?
Just think of the American dominance going forward if we all had 100Mbps!!! We could solve world hunger!!!
But no. We are going to end up a third world country without 100mbps.
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rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
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no it's an embarrassment that the FCC Bush appointed Kevin Martin has so stifled competition and innovation our status on the planet is no better than Africa and the Middle East. To placate the Telcos lobbyists they have reduced the USA to the same level as a third world nation. you to should be ashamed as well. |
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 redshiftPremium
join:2004-03-23
Beverly Hills, CA
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Oh right and funding a failing war, and having the highest infant mortality rate in the first world means our tax dollars are being put to excellent use! |
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telcolackey5The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA
1 edit | reply to rit56
said by rit56:no it's an embarrassment that the FCC Bush appointed Kevin Martin has so stifled competition and innovation our status on the planet is no better than Africa and the Middle East. To placate the Telcos lobbyists they have reduced the USA to the same level as a third world nation. you to should be ashamed as well. You and a minute fraction of the broadband user base may WANT 100Mb (and a small fraction of those few can actually USE it), but those in Africa that you are comparing against are more interested in food and medication to live.
There is so much wrong with this that I don't know where to start. Have you ever been in a third world country? Do you think anyone from Africa would agree with what you are saying? Perhaps you should allocate some of your vocal energy towards this issue with our government vs. the petty things you think you are entitled to |
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 tschmidtPremium,MVM
join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
kudos:5
·Fairpoint Commun..
 ·Hollis Hosting
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said by telcolackey5:Where should it go on the list of where our tax dollar is spent? • Defense (pesky terrorists) • Health and human services, SS, Medicare • Education • Renewable energy and other R&D That is a valid question. What we should be asking is how much would it cost to deliver "unlimited" broadband capacity to all Americans and what would the likely social and economic impact be.
Broadband and the Internet are much like the early telephone. Most people wondered what all the fuss was about and why would you want to talk to someone over the phone when you could just go over an talk to them in person.
What history shows is as telephone service became ubiquitous and cost declined dramatically it become tightly integrated into society.
Asking whether someone "needs" 100 Mbps or 1000 Mbps Broadband is to wrong question. The question we should be asking is: if very high speed low cost connectivity was available would there be a social benefits and would entrepreneurs figure out useful ways to utilize it?
I think the answer is emphatically yes.
1) Audio and video library services putting the works of mankind at your fingertips seems pretty interesting.
2) 3-D immersive reality both gaming and educational seems pretty exciting.
3) Breaking First-Mile control of Cablecos to deliver programming. With IPTV the content aggregator does not have to have a physical presence. Better yet notion of content aggregator goes the way of buggy whip manufactures. Anyone who wants to can set up a TV or Radio Station anywhere in the world to service customers residing anywhere in the world.
4) Open up amateur participation in scientific discovers by making it feasible to access huge databases of raw scientific experiment.
5) Enable distributed creative-collaboration. Reduce cost of creating artistic works and long distance collaboration.
6) Reduce need to physically travel - move photons rather then atoms.
I'm sure I have only scratched the surface and in 50 years this projection will look as quaint as projections 50 years ago about how computers would be used or 100 years ago about the automobile.
The only thing certain is that cheap high-speed communication will be world changing. Much like the printing press and the European Renaissance. Against other demands on our resources need to look at what it will cost vs likely benefit.
Using recent Verizon numbers it costs about $2000 per residence for FTTP. Most of that cost is physically installing the fiber. There are about 10 million residences in the US so we are looking at a bill in the neighborhood of $200-250 billion US. Not a trivial amount but also not so large as to be all that difficult. All it takes is the will to do it.
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As joking as you are trying to be. 100 mbit is good for a couple things.
1 of them is this asinine no child left behind. Yeah lets dumb em all down to the level of the slowest after all it worked for GW.
100 mbit to every home even rural folks , so that the "dumb" kids can get some extra help if he needs it.
We need broadband to help kids have a better choice in life. Personally , i feel education is failing because it doesn't cater to the child any more and more towards tests. We need to evolve and allow children to learn about what they want to learn about. The next big thinker could be your kid , but he is being held back by the dumbing down of our society.
Watch the movie idiocricy by mike Judge , we are truly doomed to this future if we dont do something fast.
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NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:4 Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| said by BosstonesOwn:Personally , i feel education is failing because it doesn't cater to the child any more and more towards tests. We need to evolve and allow children to learn about what they want to learn about. Education can't cater to the desires of the children; it has to provide social and cultural continuity, regardless of what the children think that they want.
Broadband is not a panacea to accomplish that goal. We can provide social and cultural continuity without broadband; but we can't guaranty that broadband will provide that continuity. Broadband can just as easily become the nextgen "television" (can you say, "Vast wasteland"?) as the nextgen "telephone".
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~Oh Lord, why have you come
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TechieZeroTools Are Using MePremium
join:2002-01-25
Gibsonton, FL Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
| reply to rit56
said by rit56:no it's an embarrassment that the FCC Bush appointed Kevin Martin has so stifled competition and innovation our status on the planet is no better than Africa and the Middle East. To placate the Telcos lobbyists they have reduced the USA to the same level as a third world nation. you to should be ashamed as well. What does it matter that Bush appointed him? Telco's placated? WTF are you talking about? And again...we are a 3rd world nation? |
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