Just BobPremium
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Spring Hill, FL | Is it time to block China? From Sandi Hardmeier's blog:
»msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/Default.aspx
What do you do when Alex Eckelberry writes to you and says "we have a new major problem"?
Which leads to:
»sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2007/11···are.html
Monday, November 26, 2007
BREAKING: Massive amounts of malware redirects in searches
We’re seeing a large amount of seeded search results which lead to malware sites.
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I've checked a few of Alex's searches and it's for real, although it may only be true on Google. I didn't see it when I tried the same searches on msn or yahoo.
Be very careful out there! |
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Mele20Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
kudos:4 | Those examples given in the replies to the Sunbelt blog I don't see how anyone could fall for them. The cn results in the Google searches...they made no sense. Who would click on a link that made no sense? Plus, who would click on a cn link anyhow? |
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TeMerc
join:2004-01-22
Phoenix, AZ | said by Mele20:Those examples given in the replies to the Sunbelt blog I don't see how anyone could fall for them. The cn results in the Google searches...they made no sense. Who would click on a link that made no sense? Plus, who would click on a cn link anyhow? Mele I'm surprised you would think the average Joe Net User has much sense. Most of them wouldn't even look at the domains. They're too busy looking at the key words to see what was returned in the search results.
If Joe had half a sense of security we'd all have to find other hobbies. |
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 nwrickertsand groperPremium,MVM
join:2004-09-04
Geneva, IL
kudos:7 | reply to Just Bob
A lot of the malware on Chinese computers was put there by the European and American cybercriminals who hacked into those Chinese machines to hide their locations. |
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Just BobPremium
join:2000-08-13
Spring Hill, FL | said by nwrickert:A lot of the malware on Chinese computers was put there by the European and American cybercriminals who hacked into those Chinese machines to hide their locations. I was thinking more along the lines of an RBN resurrection. |
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 EGeezerSummertimePremium
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Midwest
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EDIT - Thanks to the talented and lovely La Luna  for her good-natured reminder and dig at my posting f*rt. 
As we know by past pursuits and arrests of Chinese dissidents, China has the ability to monitor and track down their internet-using residents for other reasons, like political dissent and protests.
They also have demonstrated through their program of protecting the IP of their Olympic merchandise (see here ) that they can stop the counterfeiting and dangerously cheapened ripoffs they openly purvey.
So I say, block their IPs. Seize any of their assets used to produce and transport the ripoffs and malware (anyone want a container vessel or some kick butt servers and network equipment?). Put tariffs on their goods sufficient to pay for our losses and expenses dealing with their crap. They know what they're doing, and the US doesn't seem to realize the true cost of the "most favored nation" status China enjoys.
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 La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium
join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
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| said by EGeezer:As we know by past pursuits and arrests of Chinese dissidents, China has the ability to monitor and track down their internet-using residents for other reasons, like political dissent and protests. They also have demonstrated through their --
My Flickr Gallery Eh? The Chinese have a My Flickr Gallery?  
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Mele20Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
kudos:4 |  It's a nice gallery...good pics. |
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yes, all of china should be blocked.. |
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 fatnesssubtleJanitor
join:2000-11-17
fishing
kudos:13 | We should build a wall along their border.
Oh, wait...... |
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 PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
join:2005-01-03 | reply to Just Bob
Well, their internet, toys, food, and cars are all dangerous... I'd say ixnay with inachay altogether... BUT, could you imagine the economic repercussions if we did? |
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 newviewEx .. Ex .. ExactlyPremium
join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
kudos:1 | reply to Just Bob
In Response to a question said by Just Bob:Is it time to block China?
It's waaaay past time. |
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EGeezerSummertimePremium
join:2002-08-04
Midwest
kudos:7 Reviews:
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Re: Is it time to block China? A relevant story here.
My search using the same words as in the screenshot shows Google has taken some corrective measures for this particular search string. However I can't speak for the integrity of the files in search returns when I searched using parameters of
VPN disconnected applications site:.cn
Several Chinese domains turned up in the results.
I suspect the problem is not yet resolved at the Google level. I tend to ignore any results from .ru, .cn, .ro, .tw etc. - that helps narrow things down a bit.
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 mers2Premium,MVM
join:2004-03-20
USA
kudos:8 | reply to PolarBear03
said by PolarBear03:Well, their internet, toys, food, and cars are all dangerous... I'd say ixnay with inachay altogether... BUT, could you imagine the economic repercussions if we did? Considering they own a huge chunk of our national debt, they can and have quite literally gotten away with murder.
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EGeezerSummertimePremium
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Midwest
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| The U.S. only gets moral with countries whose economic impact is perceived to be minimal, like Cuba.
With Cuba it's "We don't do business with communist dictators"
With China, it's "We need to trade with communist dictators so they can see the benefits of capitalism".
Of course, the Cuban embargo has worked swimmingly so far. I heard Castro will be out of office in a few years, and the embargo did it!
Anyway, let's have China bear the costs associated with their mischief, not the U.S. taxpayers.
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mers2Premium,MVM
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USA
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1 edit | said by EGeezer:Anyway, let's have China bear the costs associated with their mischief, not the U.S. taxpayers. I agree with everything you said, unfortunately, with most products being made in China not here and the fact they own a huge chunk of our national debt the taxpayer is going to pay for their mischief any way you look at it. And we let it come to this. Edited to add: primarily through inattention and wanting cheaper goods and lower taxes while wanting more services. But that's another thread.
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What about the blatant hacking by certain Governments:
»www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20···ing.news
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Just BobPremium
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Spring Hill, FL | reply to EGeezer
said by EGeezer:My search using the same words as in the screenshot shows Google has taken some corrective measures for this particular search string. However I can't speak for the integrity of the files in search returns when I searched using parameters of VPN disconnected applications site:.cn Several Chinese domains turned up in the results. I suspect the problem is not yet resolved at the Google level. I tend to ignore any results from .ru, .cn, .ro, .tw etc. - that helps narrow things down a bit. According to the latest from Sandi the use of "site:" may invalidate the results.
»msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/ar···277.aspx |
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Mele20Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
kudos:4 | And she says that "pavtd.com.cn" isn't odd enough to raise any alarms for the average user. I can't understand that.
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not good.. |
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