 spamdPremium join:2001-04-22 Cherry Valley, IL | Blackberry GPS I'll believe it when Verizon turns on my GPS chip on my Blackberry 8830 and allows me to use any GPS application like Telnav. If you say "but wait Verzion allows you to use VZnavigator!" or just buy a GPS puck! I'll say VZnavigaor is BS it uses cell tower triangulation, which is NOT GPS. I also don't want to maintain an additional GPS puck just so I can use all those apps. I want what I paid for in my 8830 which all other carriers have enabled. I paid for it, I want it. Verizon needs to discount all the devices it has crippled, if they want to make me a happy customer.
Now lets not get into the whole "well its a free market, you didn't have to sign up at Verizon". You're right I didn't have too. It's just that my company wants to use Verizon as the only carrier.
If Verizon does this to make it's customers happy then I am all for it. This will be a win win for both Verizon and consumer. Verizon stands to attract and maintain a customer base if they do this right. -- When everything is coming your way, you are in the wrong lane. |
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 jgkoltPremium join:2004-02-21 Lakewood, OH | i agree with spamd opinion. It would be nice if the curve was on verizon also. I never noticed until i left verizon how long it takes verizon to get a phone. My example is the bb pearl. It has been out a while for the gsm carrier and it just recently was offered on verizon. Dont get me wrong i like verizon but they are acting like a large monopoly. Since they are so large they can push people around and charge a bit more. Thankfully the other phone companies realize this and capitalize on thier monopoly weakness and profit off of it. An example of this is the crippling of gps, tmobile hotspot (verizon doesnt have this because of their other phone division as competition), crippled bluetooth (like on my motorola v710 of yesterday), added price to tether for internet, etc. |
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 ToadmanHypnotoad join:2001-11-28 Ohio kudos:1 | reply to spamd said by spamd:I'll believe it when Verizon turns on my GPS chip on my Blackberry 8830 and allows me to use any GPS application like Telnav. If you say "but wait Verzion allows you to use VZnavigator!" or just buy a GPS puck! I'll say VZnavigaor is BS it uses cell tower triangulation, which is NOT GPS. I also don't want to maintain an additional GPS puck just so I can use all those apps. I want what I paid for in my 8830 which all other carriers have enabled. I paid for it, I want it. Verizon needs to discount all the devices it has crippled, if they want to make me a happy customer. Now lets not get into the whole "well its a free market, you didn't have to sign up at Verizon". You're right I didn't have too. It's just that my company wants to use Verizon as the only carrier. If Verizon does this to make it's customers happy then I am all for it. This will be a win win for both Verizon and consumer. Verizon stands to attract and maintain a customer base if they do this right. I wish this was the only complaint with the 8830. I feel the roaming capability is very clunky. I have to constantly switch the network to manual and select a network that is in their "roaming list". Taiwan is a nightmare since it will always auto-recognize a CDMA network when it is only a single GSM network that you can data roam on. Many times it is hit or miss if they allow data roaming or not. It is not as easy or user friendly as ATT Bberries on the road. I know that Verizon wants to be a world player but they are definately behind the 8 ball on the 8830. |
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 cghh join:2001-01-15 Milpitas, CA | reply to spamd said by spamd:I'll say VZnavigaor is BS it uses cell tower triangulation, which is NOT GPS. VZ-Nav uses aGPS, which uses either GPS or triangulation or both together, depending on the situation. The "a" is for assisted, which means that the phone gets GPS satellite info from the system, so it can then quickly get a fix on the GPS satellites, with a lot less signal than is required for standalone GPS units. White papers at www.snaptrack.com document how this works.
The (legitimate) complaint with respect to the Blackberry 8830 is that VZW has disabled the standalone GPS functionality. |
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