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kewlkarim
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[game] Basic C9 *The Month Before Christmas*

at the silence of the night, Mayor Gomez was shot.

sorry for the lame flavor, i'm not very creative and it's late

Players List :
BigReds42 See Profile
sansri88 See Profile
Akasha See Profile
muzscman See Profile
Sarah See Profile
KrazyKelsi05 See Profile
Johnny See Profile

list is based on the time of signup
Roles has been assigned using Random.org


7 players ( 1 cop, 4 Townie, 2 Mafia Goons)
takes 4 to lynch.




let me know if i missed anything
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Akasha
OT Queen
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join:2006-08-10
Am I lost?
kudos:2

Yea, yea, yea.... Morning all!



Sarah
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join:2001-01-09
Cambridge, MA
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reply to kewlkarim
Good morning Broadtown... let's see, who wants to cast the first random.org vote?
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muzscman
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Florissant, MO
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reply to kewlkarim
And random.org says:

Vote: sansri88



Sarah
Premium,ExMod 2002-05
join:2001-01-09
Cambridge, MA
kudos:5

What kind of bastard random-votes for the new player?

vote muzscman



muzscman
Mr. President
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said by Sarah:

What kind of bastard random-votes for the new player?

vote muzscman
Hey I hit the random button again and sansri88's name came up 3 out of the 7 times.



Akasha
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reply to kewlkarim
Okay.. I'm voting for the first person to do a "....no?"

Oh man.. Rook is not playing is he? Oh well.
Random.org here I come.
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Where it's okay to lie...



kewlkarim
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Houston, TX

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reply to kewlkarim
Official Vote Count:

sansri88 - 1 - muzscman
muzscman - 1 - Sarah

Not voting (5): BigReds42 , sansri88 , LurLyn831 , KrazyKelsi05 , Johnny

4 to lynch.
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Johnny
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join:2001-06-27
Atlanta, GA
kudos:1

reply to kewlkarim
Mornin'.

Just to remind people, in a C9 if you lynch Town on day 1, then the Town is at Lynch-or-Lose on day 2.

How can that be, you say? Town starts off at 5, there is no Doc, so nobody gets protected from Mafia at night.

Lynch -> Town is down to 4
Mafia Kill -> Town is down to 3

Lynch-or-Lose is defined as 1 more Town than Mafia, in the Day phase.

Now I gotta go do my community service for selling those fireworks without a license. Who the hell knew you needed a license?
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BigReds42
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said by Johnny:

Mornin'.

Just to remind people, in a C9 if you lynch Town on day 1, then the Town is at Lynch-or-Lose on day 2.

How can that be, you say? Town starts off at 5, there is no Doc, so nobody gets protected from Mafia at night.

Lynch -> Town is down to 4
Mafia Kill -> Town is down to 3

Lynch-or-Lose is defined as 1 more Town than Mafia, in the Day phase.

Now I gotta go do my community service for selling those fireworks without a license. Who the hell knew you needed a license?
Hopefully I will have time next period to investigate that... I have always been told it was BAD to No Lynch... ALWAYS!


Johnny
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Atlanta, GA
kudos:1

Sigh .. I didn't say anything about no-lynch.

Vote: BigReds42



BigReds42
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said by Johnny:

Sigh .. I didn't say anything about no-lynch.

Vote: BigReds42
Sorry man. I thought you were insinuating that... I got completely confused because the subject says C9... but it is really c& since there are only 7 players.. that is why I wanted to look into it. I am fully aware now.


BigReds42
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Bellaire, OH
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I know C9 is C9... but just assume 9 players (trying to play 3 games at once really sucks... I think we need to rule only two games at the same time lol)



Johnny
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join:2001-06-27
Atlanta, GA
kudos:1

reply to kewlkarim
"C9" refers to the hexadecimal (base 16) notation for the binary number

11001001

"1100", the first 4 bits, are "C" (12; an eight and a four) in hexadecimal, and "1001", the last 4 bits, are 9 (an eight and a one).

OK, so now we know why it is called C9 - because it means the binary number "11001001" (which is 201 in decimal). But what the hell does "11001001" have to do with Mafia?

Break it down into four chunks of 2 bits each.

11
00
10
01

In order to keep the exact roles from being known, C9 games have one of four configurations:

(All configurations have 2 Mafia)

1 Cop, 1 Doc : "11"
No Cop, No Doc : "00"
1 Cop, No Doc (our game) : "10"
No Cop, 1 Doc : "01"

Leaving the remaining 3 to 5 players as Vanilla Townie.

The four combinations of Cop and Doc, 11, 00, 10, and 01, together make the binary number 11001001 which in hexadecimal is, you guessed it, "C9."
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Sarah
Premium,ExMod 2002-05
join:2001-01-09
Cambridge, MA
kudos:5

...which leads us all to realize that this is not actually a C9 but just an open 7-player game.
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BigReds42
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join:2004-07-14
Bellaire, OH
kudos:1

Yeah... with 3 games going on ... I just got confused lol.



Johnny
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join:2001-06-27
Atlanta, GA
kudos:1

reply to Sarah

said by Sarah:

...which leads us all to realize that this is not actually a C9 but just an open 7-player game.
Yeah. I had a whole thing typed up in the signup thread last night about how it wasn't a C9, and then switched pages and it blew away my quick reply box.

Then I saw where you posted about the breaking strategy which I had already included in my vaporware post.

Breaking strategy, except mass roleclaim, won't work without a Doc.


kewlkarim
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Houston, TX

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reply to Johnny

said by Johnny:

1 Cop, No Doc (our game) : "10"
doesn't that make this game a C9 game ?
1 cod, 0 doc ?

yes i can edit, but you can't, ha ha


Sarah
Premium,ExMod 2002-05
join:2001-01-09
Cambridge, MA
kudos:5

C9 is when people don't know which of the four it is, like Johnny posted.

Johnny, I don't see how a mass roleclaim would help in a game like this since everyone would just say "vanilla townie".
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Johnny
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Atlanta, GA
kudos:1

reply to kewlkarim

said by kewlkarim:

said by Johnny1 Cop, No Doc (our game) : "10"
[/BQUOTE :


doesn't that make this game a C9 game ?
1 cod, 0 doc ?
Not exactly. A C9 has to be announced as "just a C9", not have all the roles revealed. Revealing the roles defeats the purpose of having the four configurations.

The purpose of the four configurations is so that the Town does not know if there is a Doc or a Cop or both or neither. Therefore they cannot use the standard Breaking Strategy of having the Cop come out immediately, get Doc protection, and then calmly investigate everyone until he finds Mafia.
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