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Re: Sandvine's MSO Case Study-Reasonable Network Management? said by telcolackey5:said by funchords:According to ANYBODY ASKED AT COMCAST, using P2P on their network is NOT PROHIBITED. "Using" is a key word in this. Using the web is different than serving web content. Downloading songs from ITUNES is different than serving mp3's to the Internet. Using p2p to download a linux distro is different than serving a linux distro to the entire world. NOTE: These comments/opinions are my own and not an attempt to state anyone's policy. Whoops messed up the quote. Plz delete the post above thx.
Anyway, the 2 way nature of the data transfer is implied via the "p2p" nomenclature.
"Use" has very little lattitude for interpretation in this case. |
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Anyway, the 2 way nature of the data transfer is implied via the "p2p" nomenclature.
Many in this forum frequently remind everyone that p2p can be configured to download only.
FTP is two way. Running an anonymous FTP server is file sharing and against ToS. "Using" FTP is ok.
HTTP is two way. Running a web server for anyone to download movies is against ToS. "Using" HTTP is not.
[EDIT: Please don't rehash the "is it a server" discussion. That one has been debated to death. File sharing 1:everyone is file sharing]
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| No. P2P can't be configured to "download only". Well, after checking on the BitTorrent protocol, anyway, I can assert that BT can't be configured to "download only". I can block BT from acting as a server, but I can't block BT from uploading.
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Upload throttle |
said by NormanS:No. P2P can't be configured to "download only". Well, after checking on the BitTorrent protocol, anyway, I can assert that BT can't be configured to "download only". I can block BT from acting as a server, but I can't block BT from uploading. *SOME* can throttle upload to 0%.
Shareaza can - all protocols, all networks.
Defeats the purpose of "sharing" though. 
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kudos:5 | FWIW,
BitTorrent and eDonkey enforce the sharing of the current file in the client
BitTorrent and eDonkey peers reward sharers with faster performance
Most DC++ servers and BitTorrent trackers have various schemes that enforce sharing
The Gnutella network does not enforce sharing.
said by dadkins:*SOME* can throttle upload to 0%. Shareaza can - all protocols, all networks. Well, to be fair to Norman as well as the Shareaza team, that setting that you showed also throttles downloads by the same amount. At 0%, you're not doing anything. 
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dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
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2 edits | Well, mine must be broken then.
I have throttled it to 0 and the download has continued.
Plus, if no one is requesting parts of the file... who would it be uploaded to?
Can't call it!
No worries!
Doesn't matter to me anymore anyways, I have moved on to better ways to get my "items". DDL.
EDIT: Typo
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funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
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kudos:5 | said by dadkins:Well, mine must be broken then. I have throttled it to 0 and the download has continued. I'll have to check that out.
It's a BitTorrent transfer, which Shareaza handles differently (a percentage of your limits).
said by dadkins:Plus, if no one is requesting parts of the file... who would it be uploaded to? That's true. And if you're seeding on Comcast, it doesn't matter anyway.
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dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
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kudos:18 | Don't trip!
I rarely use it anyways.
Use it mainly as a search tool for obscure items and maybe the odd "Research Video".
I am a member at several sites that have things available for direct download.
BT is a novelty for me any more...
Thanks Robb! 
Give 'Em Hell!
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