openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to Matt
Re: Double-Talk
Not really. It won't be much different that keeping track of your mobile minutes used. The providers simply need to provide that feedback mechanism for their customers. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to Matt
normal use is running at 100% sometimes and minimal others imo. i sometimes torrent things(wont discuss it) but then i can go for months where my only transfer is playing MMOs which use less bandwidth then surfing normal web pages(when not counting patches).
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Jamestown, NC
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said by openbox9  :Not really. It won't be much different that keeping track of your mobile minutes used. The providers simply need to provide that feedback mechanism for their customers. It's not quite that simple. What about all the spam email I receive or the phone home traffic of any software or devices I use? What if I piss someone off who decides to DDoS me?
There are methods and models to eliminate all the concerns I listed and to make bill-by-the-byte work, but I don't want my ISP in charge of any of them.
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
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said by openbox9 :Do you do the same thing for existing mobile phone users? I'll give it a shot, those mobile phone users, paying by the byte, a new ringtone every week. Texting, pay extra, roaming, pay extra. Want to surf the net? Pay a LOT extra.
It's just a money sucking mini-vacuum hooked to your wallet/purse.
I got more ... next time 
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to Matt
Cost of doing business. If customers aren't willing to own up to being a netizen, then they shouldn't be connected. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to gaforces
I was talking about minutes used since I have yet to see a flat-rate, all you can call mobile plan. |
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FutureMon
OW My Eyes
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join:2000-10-05
Colorado Springs, CO
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said by openbox9 :said by hhawkman :No offence my friend... What IS normal use? There's a second word that you conveniently left out...average. Averages are extremely easy to calculate and hence very helpful in defining normal. said by hhawkman :I pay for X download, and X upload. No, you pay for "up to" the capability to peak to X download and Y upload. said by hhawkman :If I can't Use it, I am being defrauded by my provider. There is no fraud in your scenario. If you pay for guaranteed throughput and have the SLA to prove it, then you can claim failure by your service provider. I still wouldn't call it fraud, but you can use whatever semantics that make you happy. Get business class service and "Acceptable use" should be out the window. That's a case where you can be assured full usage of the bandwidth both up and down that you are paying for. Of course it costs about 4 times as much as residential, but rightly so since presumably you are running a business and require tighter SLA's on your connection.
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
·AT&T Southeast
| You can get guaranteed full usage of your connection if you have a dedicated connection (not the "$359 Speakeasy Special"), which usually costs more than 4 times as much as a residential connection....and that's assuming only a circuit such as a T-1. |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK
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Re: Double-Talk
said by TKJunkMail :It is about time that pay-per-byte starts getting used. It solves all problems. It monetarily penalizes bandwidth hogs. It funds infrastructure investment. It avoids the need to throttle content providers, protocols, etc. Yeah, except for one thing. It will cost consumers more. I'm not talking about bandwidth hogs, but everyday, regular users. They'll be billed for "only what they use" problem is the rates will be 3x higher.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK
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Amen and Amen!
If the Telecommunications companies want to get greedy, then bury them in their corporate greed by filing mass lawsuits and winning them all.
Get SPAM you didn't want? SUE. Stupid ads appearing on your screen you don't want to see? SUE. Companies like Microsoft and so on using YOUR bandwidth to phone home/bug fix etc? SUE!!!
And, the lawsuits will be easy wins because when paying by the byte, it will be automatic to prove damages. Sue, sue sue.
And then this stupidity will die before it can get started.
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