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this is going to be fun.... wifi,
You point out AT&T, I point out Verizon in NY. Since we're talking about Verizon and not AT&T I would think I win that argument. And since you brought up AT&T please explain exactly what happened with that.
I said nothing about Fairpoint rolling out FiOS. They can't its a copyrighted technology that Verizon owns. Fairpoint has no equivalent to offer to their customers. As far as being obligated to roll out DSL you are again wrong. As it stands right now, they can do whatever the hell they want.
You admitting you don't know how jobs will be lost shows just how out of touch you are with this issue. By Fairpoints own admission, they expect a minimum 4-5% job loss every year. If you do the math that obliterates the 675 new jobs that they want to bring within 4 years. I'm not going to explain it all to you, do your own research. ( »verizonvsfairpoint.com/index.php?topic=234.0 )
Also, FiOS related jobs just happen to create about 300-400 more jobs per state that DSL does. So effectively jobs will be LOST by having Verizon leave in place of having Fairpoint fill in their place.
Again, its a FACT that Fairpoint takes 70-80% of their profits and give them back to investors in the form of dividends (you've heard of dividends, right?) In fact, for 4 out of the past 5 years Fairpoint has had to borrow money to pay out there industry leading dividend.. instead of saving money by not paying it out... Both you and Mr. accountant can talk to each other and maybe he can explain it to you.
You mistake Fairpoint wanting to come to New England as them trying to help us all out. They only want to come here to suck the life out of copper landlines for the next 5-8 years and then get the hell out... Their own business models show that they will be deeper and deeper in debt as every year passes. Copper is a dying business that has a 4-6% line loss rate every year. You cannot make that work. It cannot be made into a profitable business. Fairpoint has only succeded because they have bought small, rural phone companies with no competition. Almost 70% of their footprint has no competition from phone, cable, and internet. Moving into all of New England will erase that advantage and bring them into unchartered waters where they will be ruined by comcast.
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 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | said by publius :
wifi,
You point out AT&T, I point out Verizon in NY. Since we're talking about Verizon and not AT&T I would think I win that argument. And since you brought up AT&T please explain exactly what happened with that.
»Naperville, Illinois Can't Make Jump to Lightspeed
I think we are done here, as you clearly dont have a grasp of economics OR business.
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| Actually, the whole point is that FAIRPOINT has no idea about economics, as evidenced by their BB (junk) stock status and insanely high levels of debt.
Clearly, you have just been Pwned. |
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You do know thats Illinois you're talking about right? Who cares about Illinois?
Its NH that's clearly the most important state in the union.
I'm sorry I don't have a PHd in Economics or I've never cared about business, but what I do know is how to spot a bad deal. I know when a company is clearly trying to screw the consumer. Fairpoint is that company.
Thanks for replying to me though. And remember, I accept your apology so its okay to walk away from this and keep your head up high.. |
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Hold the phone!!!
I just saw on your profile, "In need of Garbage pail kids, 1st series".
You've got to be kidding, right!
You're trying to school me on Fairpoint economics and you collect Garbage pail kids? |
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Naperville Wifi,
I just did some more research on that At&T thing... You're talking about ONE town that didn't get the upgrade it wanted. I'm talking about three states!!
You do know that three is more than one right? And states are bigger than towns?
You're right, I think we are done, because you clearly don't have an grasp of this deal or its ramifications.
Why don't you stick to boards that speak to your knowledge base: something like Uselessinformation.com or something similar. |
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | reply to publius
Re: this is going to be fun.... said by publius :
You do know thats Illinois you're talking about right? Who cares about Illinois?
Its NH that's clearly the most important state in the union.
I would bet the people of Illinois would agrue that their situation is JUST as important as yours. Again, being selfish wont help your argument.
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wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | reply to Publius
said by Publius :
Hold the phone!!!
I just saw on your profile, "In need of Garbage pail kids, 1st series".
You've got to be kidding, right!
You're trying to school me on Fairpoint economics and you collect Garbage pail kids?
This really is my last reply, but I just couldnt pass this one up. You just proved that I DID school you in economics with that comment. While I dont collect Garbage Pail Kids (nor have I owned any in over 20 years), the price of the first series has skyrocketed and I am interested in making a profit by purchasing and selling them. You see, economics happens in everyday life if you just look around for a minute. As you have clearly pointed out, your comments and thought process are geared ONLY around the prospect of YOU getting FIOS. You have no grasp of economics, business, or an understanding of how the job market works. I see you are posting from a college, and I suggest that instead of wasting your time on these forums you get back to your studies. With hope, even you can become a productive, informed member of society.
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| wifi is funny it's not your last reply. It's going to annoy you that I continue to prove you wrong.
There is nothing that I said, or you did to prove that you schooled me. I hear that old barbie dolls are worth more too, you going to collect them?
As for me getting FiOS, I know that in the area that I live I would probably be the last person in the state to get FiOS. Its not about me getting FiOS you idiot, its about about NH getting the technology that it deserves and not getting bent over by Fairpoint.
Being the economic hero that you are you MUST be able to see the incongruities and blatant attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of everyone that Fairpoint does on a daily basis.
I hope that someday you are able to pull your head out of your a** and see the real world around you, and understand that its not all about numbers. That lives and futures can be affected by number crunchers like yourself thinking that they know what's best for everyone.
I take back one of things I said in my last post. I want you to apologize to me now. Its obvious you're an angry little boy that is looking for validation by making yourself feel superior to others. Remember, I am clearly more intelligent than you and I believe there is a good chance your mother still tucks you in at night.. |
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Re: this is going to be fun.... I told you that you were going to write again.
I would bet that the 2.3 million people in New England that won't get anything but DSL beat out the few people in East buttmunch Illinois that won't get AT&T Uverse....
I'm not selfish, I'm just right...
p.s. You didn't apologize yet. |
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