Re: ruh roh....Spent isn't looking so good right now. in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19531511 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:14:08 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:14:08 EDT Re: ruh roh....Spent isn't looking so good right now. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19534016 xenophon :
said by huntml See Profile :

All true, which is why I think that the way WiMax is being deployed is a much better thing for us consumers than LTE.
Yea, LTE is about carrier first, device maker second,

consumer last.

Wimax is about the carrier, device maker and consumer on the level with no one in control. The only common ground is the IEEE specification, which none of them specifically control.

Verizon sez they'll lead to 'any device, any app' but it will be limited to as Verizon sees fit. I doubt they'll get as many consumer device makers to participate to the degree of WiMAX, which needs no interaction with the carrier.

That's huge when you think of the entire development lifecycle of a product. Needing to involve the carrier can really get in the way.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19534016 Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:40:00 EDT Re: ruh roh....Spent isn't looking so good right now. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19533554 en102 : I agree... pretty much all mobile will be IP based.. the question is, how open will these carriers be, and how reliable/available will their services be?
Verizon Wireless has typically been the most closed
AT&T has been more open than VZW, but is still restrictive.
Sprint has been pretty open
T-Mobile has been fairly open as well
Nextel isn't very open, although I did run SSH over by Blackberry.
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Interesting times ahead, I think.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19532884 Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:28:25 EDT Re: ruh roh....Spent isn't looking so good right now. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19532812 en102 : I tend to agree... as long as Big telco bases devices as voice+data, cost will be high
If wireless networks are built/accessible for non-specific data uses, where there's little cost or regulation, it will be used by many more 'devices'.
This will bring in the gap of 'WiFi' style plans/devices vs. Cellular style plans/devices.
Sprint 'can' do a winfall if they act fast, and can cover issues such as roaming on WiMAX w/o having to purchase expensive cellular data plans.
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WiMAX is about being on any kind of consumer device, not just phones/laptop cards. WiMAX is about being open like WiFi, where the ISP doesn't know what kind of device is connecting.

LTE will likely head down the carrier controlled path and limited to carrier approved devices rather than open to consumer product makers, who would probably still need to test/approve with the carrier. WiMAX product makers don't need to deal with carrier, as WiFi makers don't have that issue.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19531511 Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:04:13 EDT Re: ruh roh....Spent isn't looking so good right now. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19531469 huntml : Maybe. But I doubt it, because mobile WiMax is already deployed *now* in some places and partially built now in the US.

Assuming Sprint and Clearwire continue with announced plans, there will be significant Mobile WiMax coverage in the US while VZW's and ATTM's LTE efforts are still on the drawing board.

This being the case, it may be that by the time the first LTE networks are built and the first LTE devices are in consumers' hands, WiMax will be a solidly entrenched product.

Plus, you have to remember that a number of major mfgs. (Intel, Samsung, Moto) have already announced intentions to support mobile WiMax, while there has been no such announcement for LTE products.

In short, it is way too early to say how this is going to play out. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19531469 Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:58:45 EDT Re: ruh roh....Spent isn't looking so good right now. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19531120 en102 : That would make iDEN the AMPS of the future
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said by inteller See Profile :

Finally two heavyweights are going to the same technology....is WiMAX the iDEN of the future? It is starting to look that way!
Looks more like CDMA is the iDEN of the future.
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