CarterStClai
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Sugar Land, TX | reply to swintec
Re: Martin doing a good thing by capping Comcast's growth ?
Unless you NEED Internet access to live, like I do, then it is not exactly entertainment anymore, is it!?! |
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swintec
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| said by CarterStClai  :Unless you NEED Internet access to live, like I do, then it is not exactly entertainment anymore, is it!?! Have business internet account prices been raised at the same level? T-1's and such tend to come with contracts to, so you have a fixed price. If you are using a residential account, then you have little to complain about, you are getting it for a steal. 
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CarterStClai
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Sugar Land, TX | Doesn't change the fact that there isn't any competition, and therefore, business rates are still very high. |
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fiberguy
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| reply to CarterStClai
If you "need" it, then get a "business class service"... in which those prices have fallen drastically.
No one NEEDS the internet.. but, it DOES make their life easier.
And before you throw out "my job requires it..." then your employer should be paying for it too. If you are self employed, and you "need" it that way, then purchase a business class service and pay the price like every other business who makes their money off it.
But, don't come here crying a river over a residential service.
Even at Comcast's un-bundled $54 price tag, that's still a bargain compared to just 7 years ago when the average user paid $45 for a 256mb DSL service OR were still paying about $55 for dial up. (Many people used a second phone line AND $25 dial up account to get on line and could only use ONE computer at a time)...
Seriously, the whining needs to come down to a dull roar. Many of you guys don't know what feeling pain at the wallet is - yet. Many of you who think life today is so bad, even with $3 gas, and $119 cable/inet/phone bills... YOU DON'T KNOW stretching.
The internet, for most people at home, is still for entertainment. |
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CarterStClai
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Sugar Land, TX
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November 29th, @09:49PM
| said by fiberguy :Even at Comcast's un-bundled $54 price tag, that's still a bargain compared to just 7 years ago when the average user paid $45 for a 256mb DSL service OR were still paying about $55 for dial up. I don't know where you get your "stats" but 9 years ago, I was on 10MB RR for $49/mo. It wasn't unusual to get cable at full pipe-speed for 50 bucks. Then they started limiting the download speed, lowering service, and overselling nodes. Things have only gone downhill since the original cable broadband deployments. |
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fiberguy
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| I get my 'stats' from the truth... you didn't get a 10MB line from Road Runner - sorry.. what you got was "Get Road Runner High Speed Internet for $49.99 a month! - WOW!!" I don't recall speeds EVER being advertised back in those days.. why? Because there WERE no guaranteed speeds back then at all.... not even up-to speeds.. and no, I doubt in 1998 you were even getting 10MB either.
But anyway.. it was "get what you get" speeds.. if you were lucky, you got some good speed.. however, with NO network management what so ever on the network, you also were able to slow to a 56k speed crawl REGULARLY.
.. and for the record, I was an engineer who rolled out many HSI systems over the past 10 years... that's where I get my information.
Have a good one. |
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CarterStClai
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Sugar Land, TX
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December 1st, @12:12AM
| Just because you didn't have it doesn't mean I didn't. When RR was launched in San Diego, it was uncapped and close to 10Mbit. It wasn't an advertised speed, it was just what you got. And it was always fast. |
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fiberguy
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| Um.. I just said that.
And still, you didn't have a 10MB line.. you had "what ever you can get" line. Some people saw speeds as high as 20mb too back then. I kinda know how cable modems worked when they were first launched... not just as an end user either. |
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CarterStClai
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Sugar Land, TX
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December 1st, @04:24PM
| Whatever, you seem to be contradicting yourself, but I just stated that its only gone downhill from the launch. I had 10Mbit "whaterver I could get" service, now I have 6Mbit "Whatever I can get service". Thanks for clarifying nothing.
Plus you stated that most were paying "$45 for a 256mb DSL service OR were still paying about $55 for dial up", when I showed you that 10MB RR was available. Now you are saying others had 20Mbit service. Are you just arguing magical points to type or something? Bye. |
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fiberguy
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| No.. you' just are in a hurry to show yourself being a dork not to read.
There is a difference between a managed network with tiers of service as what we have today, and the former days where you were never sold ANY speed, rather, you just got what ever the network would give you.
So, for you to say that you 'had a 10mb line" is false.. you didn't. All you're saying is that based on the speeds you COULD get is that they offered you that so called tier.
And yes.. I stated exactly the PIECE of what you quoted...
You're claiming that RR sold 10MB service back then. Let me put this in another way for you. NO - THEY - DIDN'T! Roadrunner NEVER sold on speed! Can you hear me now? I happen to know for a fact as I was part of the RR deployment team, another part of what I said that you overlooked.
Roadrunner and even @home NEVER sold you a tier! When you 'get that' you will see what I'm saying. Your speeds we SO un guaranteed that it was a joke when the network continued to grow. Network management HAD to be put in place. Besides, you could have achieved 10MB speeds at your house, and a few streets over would have only seen 5mb. Now you getting it?
As for my example of prices on $54, $45, and $55.. what's your point? I stated facts... Those prices did and do exist. The $55 dialup, which you didn't quote the whole thing (Can you say "SPIN" - all together now.. "SPIN") forgot to include the part that "Many people used a second phone line and a $25 dial up account and could only use ON COMPUTER AT A TIME) ... I'd say that's pretty important considered I was talking about price, offering, and value.
I tell you what, Mr. I had a 10MB line back then... if you'd like that again, I'd love for you, and everyone in your area, to have that again. Come back, spend a few minutes trying to post your gripe about the slow service and tell us how that works for you.
Your first line is so incorrect it's not even funny. Please show me ONE STICK of evidence that you had a "10MB HSI Service"... until then.. you're wrong and nothing but a smart-ass. Just giving you back what you dished out.
I clarified everything.. you just babbled. |
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CarterStClai
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Sugar Land, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| Fact: I wrote that I paid $49/mo for 10Mbit service. I received 10Mbit download whenever I tested the line, so that is 10Mbit service, and received it. Now I get 6Mbit service whenever I test the line. Service has degraded. You can mumbo-jumbo all you want, but I had better service when RR started. And your point is??? |
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fiberguy
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| So far, you've stolen talking points, danced around the issue, and failed to understand that you were never sold a tier of service with any speed.
I'm sorry, but I am not going to let you get away with, as usual around here, making up definitions to suit your needs.
You did not get sold a 10mb line. END OF STORY.
My car can do 120 on the freeway.. when testing that car out, it does 120.. therefore, the speed limit must be 120. Get real.
Enjoy your reply.. I won't read it. |
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CarterStClai
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Sugar Land, TX | Is this guy for real??? |
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DotMac
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| There are a lot of industry shills on DSLR that do nothing but spout corporate PR talking points. I've found the ignore feature very useful. »Site FAQ »Ignore list, or BLOCKED users |
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fiberguy
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join:2005-05-20 | The BBR definition of a Shill - 'anyone that takes a side that disagrees with your own'.. Shill.
How's that workin' for you Shill H8tr? (I'll take my warning hit now) .. you idiot! |
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