Re: Any one else ? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19538393 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:25:15 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:25:15 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19549926 Snickerdo :
said by sc_lover See Profile :

1GB of RAM? Show me some proof of that, I've only heard something closer to 128MB.
There are a lot of 'reviews' out there talking about 128MB of RAM being reported to the OS. What is reported from the iPhone OS and what is actually under the hood is a whole different story, though.
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said by netnerd See Profile :

do u know most newer or upcoming pdaPhone have build-in GPS?
i bet that greedy steve wont give u GPS. and saying some BS like if we put gps in 3g Iphone, it will makes the phone alot heavier! haha
u have the wait for iphone version3 to have 3G and build-in GPS, it should be out at the end of 2008! haha
Okay, after attempting to decipher this post, I think I can now reply...

Simply put, there is a lot of cool stuff Apple wants to do with the iPhone - and are doing right now internally in Cupertino and Austin - but they can't do due to the terms of the contract with AT&T. Disabling unlocked phones was an AT&T thing, not an Apple thing. No Data over BT was an AT&T thing, not an Apple thing. People think Apple has complete control over these devices, but in the end AT&T has a lot of leeway and control over what goes on, and they also have a lot of control in the way of severely fucking customers over and screwing them in ways you would not imagine unless you're on the inside of iPhone support.
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i bet that greedy steve wont give u GPS. and saying some BS like if we put gps in 3g Iphone, it will makes the phone alot heavier! haha
u have the wait for iphone version3 to have 3G and build-in GPS, it should be out at the end of 2008! haha]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19548603 Sun, 02 Dec 2007 09:52:56 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19546735 Snickerdo :
said by ditka_b See Profile :

That win mo q has 3g, what's the iphone have besides a screen that has finger prints all over it and a slow slow slow network.
A fast processor and 1GB of RAM (in addition to the 8GB of Flash) that, when the OS is opened up in Feb, will blow other devices out of the water. The iPhone hardware kicks ass with the exception of EDGE. EDGE is a bit of a downfall, no doubt.
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It would synch fine at home but work with security policies it fails.

Rather unique , why not have it just work ? Like all thier ads say about the rest of thier stuff ? Ahh that is right we need to excuse that.

My Q synchs with any outlook I use , great for pulling contacts off my managers and co workers outlook boxes in a snap.
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said by itguy05 See Profile :

quote:
t doesn't synch well with outlooks phonebook.

Again, ditch the POS known as Exchange and Outlook.
The most amusing thing of all is that it syncs just fine with Outlook. It's idiot Windows users who have no bloody clue what they're doing or what "Unicode" means that cause everything to screw up.
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Even as the system admin for this top fortune 100 company , we have standard services that are used for a reason. Ever try to work with people who use open office ? They just don't mess well together and the same is said for email.

We have workers who check their email from web forms from outlook and from other exchange capable devices. The open services don't play well with blackberries. They also don't work as well as exchange when you have to cluster 60 to 80 boxes together to drive a company like this. Also let me know when you have users all over the world who hit the email servers.

Also let me know when those open source programs get the approval of the us government and the approval of every other government where we have campuses. Because then we can shift to that platform and save a whole lot of money.

Even as a sys admin who often writes code for opensolaris and even linux when I need to , I can't get away from exchange and we even have lotus notes servers as well. Which the iphone doesn't like either. You see open source works for small companies but not for the big guys who need to work with many government entities and follow their rules. And that is not changing anytime soon.
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said by pfak See Profile :

Which part of "business user" did you not understand?
The part where Apple stated it was a business phone.
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Sometimes I just get tired of having to do the work myself for the clueless. But I will if I need to again I guess.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19539967 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:59:13 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19539850 pfak :
said by itguy05 See Profile :

quote:
Can't load an exchange web panel from its wifi or even on its cell web.


Move off that POS known as Exchange. The alternatives are more scalable, more reliable and more flexible. Exchange is truly garbage.

quote:
Can't run a vpn app from the handheld since they locked it down. So much for security.


I'm sure that will be addressed when the apps come in the new year.

quote:
t doesn't synch well with outlooks phonebook.


Again, ditch the POS known as Exchange and Outlook.

quote:
At&t's network coverage sucks.


So does Verizon, despite their marketing. I've got both - Verizon for work and AT&T for personal use. AT&T is much better.

There are plenty using their iPhones in their business. In fact those that chose the non-Microsoft path generally have an easier time adapting to new non-MS technologies. It's not Apples (or any other company's) that you choose the locked-in MS path.
It's kind of obvious that you don't work in the business world, or have any idea how it functions (like the majority of the people on these forums).

Do you have any idea how hard it is to get technology changed at a large company? If you're just a normal employee it is pretty much impossible, and just about the same if you are management.

Grow up and learn how the real world works. We know Exchange/Microsoft sucks but we're still stuck with their products because of something called "business process."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19539850 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:40:25 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19539815 itguy05 :
quote:
Can't load an exchange web panel from its wifi or even on its cell web.


Move off that POS known as Exchange. The alternatives are more scalable, more reliable and more flexible. Exchange is truly garbage.

quote:
Can't run a vpn app from the handheld since they locked it down. So much for security.


I'm sure that will be addressed when the apps come in the new year.

quote:
t doesn't synch well with outlooks phonebook.


Again, ditch the POS known as Exchange and Outlook.

quote:
At&t's network coverage sucks.

So does Verizon, despite their marketing. I've got both - Verizon for work and AT&T for personal use. AT&T is much better.

There are plenty using their iPhones in their business. In fact those that chose the non-Microsoft path generally have an easier time adapting to new non-MS technologies. It's not Apples (or any other company's) that you choose the locked-in MS path.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19539815 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:34:58 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19539809 pfak : Which part of "business user" did you not understand?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19539809 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:33:48 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19539589 hopeflicker : "Mac is actually cheaper then a similiar Dell or HP or Gateway PC"

I lol'd at that :D
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I'm also jaded because I build my own systems, so I don't repurchase the OS and other apps everytime I "upgrade". I end up with superior parts for close to what budget boxes cost, thus they end up being superior in spec to Macs. I don't think ANY of the pre-built systems are good; so I'm not just picking on Macs. They just don't have a budget box for me to compare to. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19539130 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:57:54 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19539093 djrobx :
quote:
No, he's refering to how things with equal computing power cost more when mixed with fruit.
I agree to a certain extent. Now that Apple is using Intel stuff, it's easier to make comparisons. From what I can tell, Apple's hardware isn't generally terribly "overpriced" when it first comes out. Apple tends to offer high end stuff (e.g., the minimum configuration of their Mac Pro tower is a dual Xeon Woodcrest). It was actually cheaper than a comparable Dell Precision workstation. The same was true of my Mac Pro.

Of course, now you look at the same machine, you can get "consumer grade" quad core chips that perform just as well for far less money.

The issue is the price and spec usually stays the same (or close to the same) over the course of the year or two during the product's lifecycle, and they're slow to offer new versions of their products. So depending on where you buy in the product's lifecycle it's somewhere between high end and overpriced. They don't do "bang for the buck".

The upshot to all of this is that Apple has more definitive hardware platforms. Because they hang onto a certain configurations, they are more likely to maintain them and deal with quirks that may arise. You're less likely to end up with an "obscure" model that's hard to find support for.
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said by hopeflicker See Profile :

said by Rob See Profile :

Get back to me when Apple can actually compete against Microsoft in the stock market.

MSFT: Mkt Cap: 313.22B; Shares: 9.36B
AAPL: Mkt Cap: 160.16B; Shares: 875.54M
Stock prices does absolutely nothing for the consumer when they are in the store buying products.
They do more than you think.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538925 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:29:16 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538903 hopeflicker :
said by Rob See Profile :

Get back to me when Apple can actually compete against Microsoft in the stock market.

MSFT: Mkt Cap: 313.22B; Shares: 9.36B
AAPL: Mkt Cap: 160.16B; Shares: 875.54M
Stock prices does absolutely nothing for the consumer when they are in the store buying products.
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Adi]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538806 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:11:01 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538801 adisor19 : No not at all. Looks like this post has already been answered while i had lunch. Once some arguments are provided rather then a ilame post, he gets a little more credibility.

Adi]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538801 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:10:19 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538776 Rob :
said by MadDog3057 See Profile :

said by hopeflicker See Profile :

said by adisor19 See Profile :

They're usually M$ fabois.

Adi
You have that all wrong!

Apple is the over priced company.
If by over priced you mean it has a higher stock price and Microsoft then yes. It is.
Get back to me when Apple can actually compete against Microsoft in the stock market.

MSFT: Mkt Cap: 313.22B; Shares: 9.36B
AAPL: Mkt Cap: 160.16B; Shares: 875.54M ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538776 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:06:10 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538721 hopeflicker :
said by MadDog3057 See Profile :

said by hopeflicker See Profile :

said by adisor19 See Profile :

They're usually M$ fabois.

Adi
You have that all wrong!

Apple is the over priced company.
If by over priced you mean it has a higher stock price and Microsoft then yes. It is.
LOL @ your over priced mouse :p

$50 of a fucking mouse?
unreal

Dont get me started on the ipod arm bands :huh:

»store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/W···B112LL/A
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quote:
Can't load an exchange web panel from its wifi or even on its cell web.
The wifi doesn't support radius so as to actually secure the tunnel.
Can't run a vpn app from the handheld since they locked it down. So much for security.
It doesn't synch well with outlooks phonebook.


It's a non-Microsoft product targeted at recreational use.

quote:
For awhile it was flooding our cisco AP's off the network and killed almost all wireless use for most workers.
That was determined to be a Cisco problem. Even if it were Apple's problem, it's not like Microsoft's products are perfect on the first shot, either.

quote:
At&t's network coverage sucks.

The phone reception is horrible compared to my at&t razr v3 which is a mountain times worse then the Q.
I find that comment interesting. My iPhone's cell signal quality is much better than my Samsung Blackjack. We have marginal coverage here at the house, and the iPhone is the first phone I've had (out of many, including Motorola phones) that actually seems to work reliably here. If anything, it's certainly not "mountains worse".
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The touch screen has to be unlocked to answer the phone ! Why?
I like that. It means I won't accidentally answer the call taking it out of my pocket. The gesture to answer it is one action and is hardly difficult.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538623 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:41:45 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538426 Ahrenl : No, he's refering to how things with equal computing power cost more when mixed with fruit. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538426 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:14:58 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538414 Ahrenl : I believe he's using the term "toy" like you would use for a plasma TV. "Look at my new 50 inch Toy".

And in that case, he's absolutely correct. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538414 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:13:51 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538413 PolarBear : LOL JINX!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538413 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:13:47 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538393 PolarBear : Bosstones, I agree with you, but if you precede another word with "i" again, I'll be forced to iSlap you. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538393 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:11:57 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538383 PolarBear :
said by adisor19 See Profile :

You need to drop some of that lame fanboism and state some facts in your arguments if you want to look less ridiculous.
Pot calling the kettle black?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538383 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:11:11 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538290 MadDog3057 :
said by hopeflicker See Profile :

said by adisor19 See Profile :

They're usually M$ fabois.

Adi
You have that all wrong!

Apple is the over priced company.
If by over priced you mean it has a higher stock price and Microsoft then yes. It is.
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said by BosstonesOwn See Profile :

Ok where to start ?

Can't load an exchange web panel from its wifi or even on its cell web.

The wifi doesn't support radius so as to actually secure the tunnel.

Can't run a vpn app from the handheld since they locked it down. So much for security.
This is all stuff a normal user would not be doing on their phone.

said by BosstonesOwn See Profile :

For awhile it was flooding our cisco AP's off the network and killed almost all wireless use for most workers.
This was an issue with Cisco as the university that was complaining of the same issue discovered.

said by BosstonesOwn See Profile :

At&t's network coverage sucks.
If you're referring to coverage as in areas where they offer coverage then I agree some places will not have good coverage. Otherwise, if by coverage you mean signal strength in an area then I wonder why at&t is the #1 provider in terms of subscribers.

said by BosstonesOwn See Profile :

The touch screen has to be unlocked to answer the phone ! Why ?
It does not need to be unlocked to answer the phone. If that were the case you would need to unlock the phone and then pick up the call. Instead you just swipe your finger across to the screen to pick up the call.

said by BosstonesOwn See Profile :

I am anything but a fanboi , I am fair and balanced and feel that each phone has it's role. This one has it's role as a toy phone.
If it was a toy then it would not actually make any calls and it would be made entirely out of plastic.
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said by adisor19 See Profile :

They're usually M$ fabois.

Adi
You have that all wrong!

Apple is the over priced company.
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said by adisor19 See Profile :

They're usually M$ fabois.

Adi
And replacing "S" with "$" makes you so much more mature?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538172 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:41:06 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538169 dadkins : Pot, Kettle, Black... :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538169 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:40:42 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538143 BosstonesOwn : Ok where to start ?

Can't load an exchange web panel from its wifi or even on its cell web.

The wifi doesn't support radius so as to actually secure the tunnel.

Can't run a vpn app from the handheld since they locked it down. So much for security.

It doesn't synch well with outlooks phonebook.

For awhile it was flooding our cisco AP's off the network and killed almost all wireless use for most workers.

At&t's network coverage sucks.

The phone reception is horrible compared to my at&t razr v3 which is a mountain times worse then the Q. I can't take the phone anywhere else in the world and just insert the local companies sim to save us both data and phone charges.

The touch screen has to be unlocked to answer the phone ! Why ?

I am anything but a fanboi , I am fair and balanced and feel that each phone has it's role. This one has it's role as a toy phone.
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Adi]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538033 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:18:20 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538013 ARGONAUT : You know it :D
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19538013 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:15:27 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537989 MysticGogeta : iPhone might be great but AT&T ain't (Sorry bad rhyme) Untill its on another provider I don't think im going to get it.
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Team Discovery-Join the fight]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537989 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:11:11 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537977 MadDog3057 : I love it when people need to resort to putting an i in front of every other word just to be able to make it seem like their statement has a point.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537977 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:09:23 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537952 adisor19 : Really ? Why is it not a decent phone ? And who the hell said this is a phone for the business world ? As far as i know it doesn't support exchange sync on BES so it was never meant for that. But give it some time and it will be.

You need to drop some of that lame fanboism and state some facts in your arguments if you want to look less ridiculous.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537952 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:04:16 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537910 BosstonesOwn : I have , it's not a decent phone for real use , maybe the ikids can use it but I can't in a real ibusiness iworld.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537910 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:56:37 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537872 Titus Pullo : Hmmm ...

iEye
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537872 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:49:47 EDT Re: Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537851 adisor19 : Keep using your crashy WinMO Q and the pathetic excuse of a browser. If you would have actually used an iPhone, you would know what the hype is about. You obviously did not.

Adi]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537851 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:46:43 EDT Any one else ? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537827 BosstonesOwn : Really tired of the ihype about ichristmas gifts and icontracts just to buy an iphone for iat&t ?

I mean really this damn thing didn't change the iworld now idid it ? I have iused this thing and it doen's do ianything that my motorola q does. Except cost the iboys and igirls a boat load of imoney for an itoy. Matter of fact these things have been ibanned from my ijob. And the iboys and igirls who have them icomplained.

im isick of all the ihype about this damn itoy.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19537827 Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:42:57 EDT