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RockyBB
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Re: What do I need - T1, T1 scaled up or Cable Biz internet?

of course, it all depends on traffic. when you say you have a "couple" of T1s to the California office, you don't say how many. And you don't say what percentage of traffic no longer would be using the California connection. and you don't say if you will be increasing staff or internet demand in your office. and you don't say why you're even thinking about getting internet access locally. So with all that necessary info missing, and assuming that you can't calculate in advance how much bandwidth you'll need, I would suggest you get a Tier 1 carrier (AT&T, Qwest, Verizon Business, Savvis, XO, Sprint, Global Crossing; Nuvox is good in Atlanta) T1 circuit (not cable or DSL because you don't want to get yelled at), where the carrier provides the router. If you end up with congestion, you can have the carrier install a 2nd circuit, and bond them together, while supplying the multi-T1 router. Be sure the provider will give you circuit utilization and performance stats and that you have an appropriate firewall.
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fatmanskinny
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1. T1 traffic to CA office would mainly be for internal sites and email. External traffic would route in and out of the new connection. So, in essence, 150 users total (max users in office) would get e-mail via CA T1 connections and then get public internet via new connection.

2. We have 3 T-1s connecting to the CA office.

3. Regarding why we are getting internet locally? The connection from CA is too slow among 150 office users. We see transfer rates of about 10-20kb on average. When very few are using the site, we see 150kb transfer rate.

Also, how does a Tier 1 carrier differentiate from anyone else like a Covad, Megapath, etc?

Thanks for responding.
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RockyBB
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With that profile you'll be the hero if you put in a double T1, bonded at 3M. Pricing should be in the $700 to $1000 per month range with router.

A Tier 1 provider has its own NOC (network operations center) and typically will have its own intercity fiber routes. All carriers will lease some routes from others, but Tier 1 carriers own their own fiber. Megapath resells Covad and AT&T, and has their own stuff after their merger with Netifice (which used to be called Epoch Internet years ago). Covad has their own NOC, but I'm not aware that they own any of their own fiber, so I'll call them a Tier 2. Many of the larger Tier 2 providers are pretty good, when they are very service oriented they often do a better job than the AT&Ts of the world. The Tier 2 providers you have to be careful of are the local companies that oversell their bandwidth.
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Hmm. Since cable is hypothetically faster, why would I not want to go that route? I understand that bandwidth could fluctuate a bit but we mainly need it for downloading.

I am also aware of the SLA issue with business cable, too. Basically non-existent.

I believe I may be incorrect in that the new connection will be the public internet connection only and not the T1s that are in place. This is mainly to provide more bandwidth.

If I am not mistaken with cable, if you are downloading a lot and someone is trying to upload, the download is impacted where as a T1 does not have that issue, correct?


I just tested downloading a large file which started out great. Then, when I uploaded a file via YouSendIt at the same time, my download speeds dropped significantly. I assume that this would be the same issue on Business Class Cable.

Thanks for all of your responses.
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