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jbob
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reply to espaeth

Re: Minneapolis up on ibone

This may or may not be related but dadkins See Profile and I have been able to trace route each other for over a year now and the whole route remains on Comcast ibone(Arkansas to California). Of course it might be different(or has to be) to a non Comcast sub.

Or maybe what you're saying is that Comcast has added Minn to the ibone as a path.


ztmike
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said by jbob:

This may or may not be related but dadkins See Profile and I have been able to trace route each other for over a year now and the whole route remains on Comcast ibone(Arkansas to California). Of course it might be different(or has to be) to a non Comcast sub.

Or maybe what you're saying is that Comcast has added Minn to the ibone as a path.
What the hell is ibone?

How do you tell if your on this "ibone"?
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JollyStomper
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said by ztmike:

said by jbob:

This may or may not be related but dadkins See Profile and I have been able to trace route each other for over a year now and the whole route remains on Comcast ibone(Arkansas to California). Of course it might be different(or has to be) to a non Comcast sub.

Or maybe what you're saying is that Comcast has added Minn to the ibone as a path.
What the hell is ibone?

How do you tell if your on this "ibone"?
I have to second that...


jbob
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Internet Backbone


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ztmike
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said by jbob:

Internet Backbone
Wow..thanks for that, that was such a intelligent response.
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ztmike
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According to that..everybody has "ibone" then

The original poster made it seem like a faster backbone or something..
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I expect MN was recently added.



jbob
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said by ztmike:

said by jbob:

Internet Backbone
Wow..thanks for that, that was such a intelligent response.
Sorry I didn't mean it to sound terse. I just assumed that you would know what the Internet backbone was and was confused by the term "ibone."

From Eric's post I assume that Comcast is getting more into using it's own backbone to provide transit for it's own as well as other users.


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said by jbob:

From Eric's post I assume that Comcast is getting more into using it's own backbone to provide transit for it's own as well as other users.
I just never heard the term before..

I get the picture now..Comcast is starting to use their own backbone instead of peering..

Whats this have to do with docsis 3 though?
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dadkins
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reply to jbob
68.87.196.233

Show 'em! ;)

Here:

Tracing route to 73.205.28.1 over a maximum of 30 hops
 
  1     1 ms    <1 ms     1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3     9 ms     9 ms     *     ge-2-22-ur02.pinole.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.1
96.233]
  4     9 ms    10 ms     *     te-9-1-ur01.pittsburg.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87
.192.106]
  5     9 ms     9 ms     *     te-9-1-ur02.pittsburg.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87
.192.110]
  6    14 ms    19 ms    12 ms  te0-5-0-4-ar01.oakland.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.8
6.72.82]
  7    14 ms    13 ms    17 ms  te-4-1-cr01.sacramento.ca.cbone.comcast.net [68.
86.72.81]
  8    28 ms    24 ms    24 ms  te-9-1-cr01.losangeles.ca.cbone.comcast.net [68.
86.68.70]
  9    43 ms    40 ms    43 ms  te-1-1-cr01.santateresa.tx.cbone.comcast.net [68
.86.68.82]
 10    56 ms    55 ms    54 ms  te-1-1-cr01.denverqwest.co.cbone.comcast.net [68
.86.68.149]
 11    58 ms    58 ms    58 ms  te-2-1-cr01.denver.co.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.6
8.145]
 12    68 ms    67 ms    66 ms  te-1-1-cr01.omaha.ne.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.68
.41]
 13    76 ms    77 ms    74 ms  68.86.72.178
 14     *       83 ms    85 ms  68.87.174.5
 15    85 ms     *       84 ms  68.87.174.22
 16    92 ms    84 ms    83 ms  73.205.28.1
 
Trace complete.
 

Can't call the last 4, but it's Comcast all the way to there. :)


EG
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Check this out dadkins, me to you:

Tracing route to **********
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 7 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms ge-2-4-ur01.union.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.2
20.145]
4 11 ms 9 ms 9 ms po-90-ur02.avenel.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.2
09.233]
5 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms po-90-ur01.avenel.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.2
09.229]
6 13 ms 9 ms 9 ms po-90-ur02.ebrunswick.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68.
86.209.225]
7 12 ms 10 ms 9 ms po-90-ur01.ebrunswick.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68.
86.209.221]
8 11 ms 9 ms 10 ms po-90-ur02.eastwindsor.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68
.86.209.217]
9 12 ms 10 ms 11 ms po-90-ur01.eastwindsor.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68
.86.209.213]
10 13 ms 12 ms 11 ms te-2-3-ar01.plainfield.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68
.86.72.18]
11 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms te-4-1-cr01.newyork.ny.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.
72.17]
12 21 ms 20 ms 17 ms te-1-1-cr01.boston.ma.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.6
8.10]
13 48 ms 38 ms 38 ms te-9-1-cr01.cleveland.oh.cbone.comcast.net [68.8
6.68.14]
14 48 ms 48 ms 47 ms te-9-1-cr01.chicago.il.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.
68.22]
15 64 ms 64 ms 62 ms te-9-1-cr01.omaha.ne.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.68
.30]
16 73 ms 74 ms 74 ms te-9-1-cr01.denver.co.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.6
8.42]
17 76 ms 74 ms 73 ms te-9-1-cr01.denverqwest.co.cbone.comcast.net [68
.86.68.146]
18 81 ms 81 ms 80 ms te-2-1-cr01.santateresa.tx.cbone.comcast.net [68
.86.68.150]
19 102 ms 97 ms 98 ms te-8-1-cr01.losangeles.ca.cbone.comcast.net [68.
86.68.81]
20 109 ms 108 ms 107 ms te-9-1-cr01.sacramento.ca.cbone.comcast.net [68.
86.68.69]
21 98 ms 97 ms 97 ms be20-ar01.oakland.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.86.143
.5]
22 100 ms 97 ms 100 ms te0-2-0-1-ar01.sfsutro.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.8
7.192.93]
23 102 ms 99 ms 98 ms te-9-1-ur01.pinole.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.19
2.94]
24 98 ms 100 ms 98 ms GE-1-7-ur03.pinole.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.19
9.178]
25 103 ms * 100 ms te-7-4-ur02.pinole.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.85.21
6.201]
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 111 ms 112 ms 111 ms c-71-202-181-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [71.202.181
.190]
28 121 ms 113 ms 112 ms ************

Trace complete.

This is the first time that I have ever seen this on a coast to coast trace !



Cabal
Premium
join:2007-01-21
Austin, TX

Looks similar to EG's from Boston: cbone all the way. Latency was nothing to brag about, though...



EG
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Union, NJ
kudos:9

said by Cabal:

Looks similar to EG's from Boston: cbone all the way. Latency was nothing to brag about, though...
True. I expect ~ 80 to 100ms coast to coast, but would like to see 70 to 80 ms


jbob
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Little Rock, AR

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reply to dadkins
To dadkins

C:\>tracert 68.87.196.233
 
Tracing route to ge-2-22-ur02.pinole.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.196.233]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1xx.1xx
  2     7 ms     5 ms     7 ms  73.247.102.1
  3     7 ms     *        8 ms  68.85.224.41
  4     6 ms    10 ms     *     te-9-1-ar01.littlerock.ar.lrock.comcast.net [68.87.223.161]
  5    14 ms    13 ms    17 ms  te-7-1-cr01.nashville.tn.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.72.121]
  6    22 ms    30 ms    21 ms  te-9-1-cr01.dallas.tx.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.68.97]
  7    31 ms    31 ms    31 ms  te-9-1-cr01.stratford.tx.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.68.93]
  8    39 ms    46 ms    40 ms  te-9-1-cr01.santateresa.tx.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.68.89]
  9    56 ms    57 ms    55 ms  te-8-1-cr01.losangeles.ca.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.68.81]
 10    66 ms    68 ms    67 ms  te-9-1-cr01.sacramento.ca.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.68.69]
 11    70 ms    67 ms    71 ms  be10-ar01.oakland.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.86.143.1]
 12    79 ms    70 ms    72 ms  te0-2-0-1-ar01.sfsutro.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.192.93]
 13    71 ms     *       71 ms  te-9-1-ur01.pinole.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.192.94]
 14    72 ms    73 ms    73 ms  GE-6-2-ur03.pinole.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.199.182]
 15    73 ms    76 ms    72 ms  ge-2-22-ur02.pinole.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.196.233]
 
Trace complete.
 


Rick
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT

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reply to jbob
Amazing. Just when I can't be any happier..along comes Ibone.

Ct. joins the ibone club as well. Just ran a tracert to San Fran..never left comcast and latency was spectacular.

Wow...what consistent latency right across the entire U.S. eh?

Who needs the net anymore..we have comcast.

IMHO..it's all part of Docsis 3.0.

Wow..Get ready folks..

2008 is going to be real exciting!



Rick
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT

reply to jbob

said by jbob:

To dadkins

C:\>tracert 68.87.196.233
 
Tracing route to ge-2-22-ur02.pinole.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.196.233]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1xx.1xx
  2     7 ms     5 ms     7 ms  73.247.102.1
  3     7 ms     *        8 ms  68.85.224.41
  4     6 ms    10 ms     *     te-9-1-ar01.littlerock.ar.lrock.comcast.net [68.87.223.161]
  5    14 ms    13 ms    17 ms  te-7-1-cr01.nashville.tn.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.72.121]
  6    22 ms    30 ms    21 ms  te-9-1-cr01.dallas.tx.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.68.97]
  7    31 ms    31 ms    31 ms  te-9-1-cr01.stratford.tx.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.68.93]
  8    39 ms    46 ms    40 ms  te-9-1-cr01.santateresa.tx.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.68.89]
  9    56 ms    57 ms    55 ms  te-8-1-cr01.losangeles.ca.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.68.81]
 10    66 ms    68 ms    67 ms  te-9-1-cr01.sacramento.ca.cbone.comcast.net [68.86.68.69]
 11    70 ms    67 ms    71 ms  be10-ar01.oakland.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.86.143.1]
 12    79 ms    70 ms    72 ms  te0-2-0-1-ar01.sfsutro.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.192.93]
 13    71 ms     *       71 ms  te-9-1-ur01.pinole.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.192.94]
 14    72 ms    73 ms    73 ms  GE-6-2-ur03.pinole.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.199.182]
 15    73 ms    76 ms    72 ms  ge-2-22-ur02.pinole.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.196.233]
 
Trace complete.
 
Is that sweet or what?
Amazing. Simply amazing.

--
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ztmike
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said by Rick:

Amazing. Just when I can't be any happier..along comes Ibone.

Ct. joins the ibone club as well. Just ran a tracert to San Fran..never left comcast and latency was spectacular.

Wow...what consistent latency right across the entire U.S. eh?

Who needs the net anymore..we have comcast.

IMHO..it's all part of Docsis 3.0.

Wow..Get ready folks..

2008 is going to be real exciting!
Jez Rick..don't spluge in your pants..its really nothing to be excited about.

I still don't see how this proves docsis 3 is coming, wow so they made it to where their customers are linked to each other..any ISP should have that..

You guys telling me that people who have cbone are getting docsis 3 or something?

..Posted a trace from NW IN to the IP listed by dadkins..which ever city that is..

89ms is nothing to brag home about..
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Rick
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT

Nothing to brag home about? LOOK at that consistency. None of the spikes at all commonly associated with jumping from network to network.

These numbers are simply amazing considering the distance involved. I mean, for those of us on each coast..we are looking at sub 100ms COAST TO COAST..as in 3,000 miles away.
And, the progression is awesome as we move from area to area...ie: 20ms range..30ms..etc.

There's no 20ms..then 150ms..then 400ms..then...200ms..
as is commonly associated with the net.

Latency is a huge factor in our connections..not just the speeds involved.

This is like having our own nationwide Lan for christs sake.

Awesome job Comcast. Incredible in fact!
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ztmike
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said by Rick:

Nothing to brag home about? LOOK at that consistency. None of the spikes at all commonly associated with jumping from network to network.

These numbers are simply amazing considering the distance involved. I mean, for those of us on each coast..we are looking at sub 100ms COAST TO COAST..as in 3,000 miles away.
And, the progression is awesome as we move from area to area...ie: 20ms range..30ms..etc.

There's no 20ms..then 150ms..then 400ms..then...200ms..
as is commonly associated with the net.

Latency is a huge factor in our connections..not just the speeds involved.

This is like having our own nationwide Lan for christs sake.

Awesome job Comcast. Incredible in fact!
Rick, those numbers are seen across most of the major big isp's 100ish ms coast to coast 40ms to nyc from chicago and so forth.

I couldn't tell ya what Fios or OOL gets, but i heard their pretty good.
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