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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro

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reply to gaforces

Re: What Credibility?

said by gaforces:

Bump out the 100/100 (ipv6 compatible) quick as they can, so that others will have to re-think thier deployments seriously.
Get USF priority re-allocated to deployment in rural areas, so its not such a burden on this poor company.
I'd say 30/5, 20/5 and 20/20 is a pretty good start. Don't forget that without Verizon FiOS, there would be NO competition in the broadband world... Cable VS DSL was not really "competition." FIOS is FORCING cable companies to rethink their strategies. You just can't offer 100/100... That would require a massive restructuring of the backbones. Right now, Verizon is handling FiOS bandwidth quite well and they're expanding bandwidth occasionally... I'd say within 5 years or less we'll be at 100/100. There is really no "need" for 100/100 right now outside of warez... I am a HEAVY user and I only need 20/5 to get most of my work done, 20/20 is overkill for me.

-Tzale


cdigioia
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join:2005-06-08
korea, repub

reply to FactChecker

said by FactChecker
»www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/diet.fit···dex.html
»www.childrenshospital.org/newsro···l42.html
»www.charlestonbusiness.com/pub/1···5-1.html

or directly to the Google results:

»www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=po···G=Search

You also need to check out:

Fast Food Nation, Eric Schlosser
The MacDonaldization of Society, Ritzer
[/BQUOTE :


Those all just repeat your viewpoint, they don't have any evidence other than that lower income = higher obesity. They didn't do the math on cheapest calorie sources, look at labor bureau stats on hours worked, etc.

I meant hard facts, such as in academic papers/government statistics, etc. Not CNN says so but doesn't back it up.


factcheckerA

@cox.net

Apparently you ONLY read the CNN report and not the others... Read the other links and you will find discussion of studies and numbers.

I gave you the place to start. You do the rest of the work.



cdigioia
Premium
join:2005-06-08
korea, repub

The other two articles link fast food to obesity (no, really, there's a link?? )

You still haven't proven that people need to eat fast food to being with.



factchecker

@cox.net

said by cdigioia:

The other two articles link fast food to obesity (no, really, there's a link?? )
Look through the Google result linked to.. Right there for your amusement.

You still haven't proven that people need to eat fast food to being with.
Proving that people NEED to eat fast food and that impoverished people DO eat fast food are two different things. Thus far you have asked for the later and that is the only one I will prove. The former is outside of my area of expertise (I'm not a nutritionist).

I'm done. You are just arguing for the sake of arguing when everything you need to _begin_ doing your own research on this issue on your own time has been presented to you. I had to trudge my way through journals and articles (many of which you probably won't find on the internet freely available) on my own, I've given you more than I had to start.


cdigioia
Premium
join:2005-06-08
korea, repub

Sorry, I meant there's a link as in there's a connection, poor word choice on my part.

No, I was arguing whether or not people need to eat poorly just because they are poor.

But yes, agreed, let's let it go.


Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA

reply to FAQFixer
Or they didn't "choose" to have kids. Many kids come to be, without an educated choice.


PDXPLT

join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR

reply to jdracer47

said by jdracer47:

So you live in Jersey and are expecting Fios? Try living in many of Verizon's territories that do not even have DSL deployed and will never see Fios. It took PA Legislation to FORCE Verizon to deploy DSL to my community (Act 183). If not for the legislation it would have been a long time until any service at all was deployed. I get a little tired of Verizon fan-boys defending the company due to FTTH. There were many areas completely ignored during DSL deployment that continue to be ignored while Fios is being deployed to areas that had 4-5 other ISP choices already.
WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For every FOIS-enabled area that like Verizon, because they gave them another choice fro a TV provider, there are many, many areas (like mine) where Verizon is on the most-hated list: areas where Verizon has told the local franchise regulators that they'll never get FIOS, and where Verizon has not even deployed DSL, and probably never will.

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