[Philly] Boy Scouts Getting Evicted in Philadelphia & Northeast http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19564295 en Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:50:58 EDT Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:50:58 EDT Re: [Philly] Boy Scouts Getting Evicted http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19652417 pfqdrx : Remember the phrase "A deal is a deal?" Doesn't work in Philly. Not for Terrell Owens, not for the BSA.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19652417 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:22:47 EDT Re: [Philly] Boy Scouts Getting Evicted http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19567169 CtrlAltDel : I costs the city nothing. :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19567169 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:45:31 EDT Re: [Philly] Boy Scouts Getting Evicted http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19567148 JPuppy : Wrong, it the City loses revenue that they could be earning from a real tenant, one who pays the going rate.
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Official BBR Grouch]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19567148 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:41:58 EDT Re: [Philly] Boy Scouts Getting Evicted http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19567122 CtrlAltDel :
said by JPuppy See Profile :

It's in the article. They're renting city property at below market value. That's an implicit subsidy. The quote from Street himself says they can stay if they pay market rates.
It doesn't cost the city one dollar to allow the Boy Scouts to stay. In fact, there is a contract that allows the Scouts to lease the land in perpetuity (or eternity). There was no caveat in the original contract that mentioned homosexuals.

sub·si·dies
1. Monetary assistance granted by a government to a person or group in support of an enterprise regarded as being in the public interest.
2. Financial assistance given by one person or government to another.
3. Money formerly granted to the British Crown by Parliament.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19567122 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:36:24 EDT Re: [Philly] Boy Scouts Getting Evicted http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19567049 JPuppy :
said by CtrlAltDel See Profile :

Hmmm.... I missed the part where it said that public money was subsidizing the Boy Scouts. They are a PRIVATE organization who built their own building with their own money,
It's in the article. They're renting city property at below market value. That's an implicit subsidy. The quote from Street himself says they can stay if they pay market rates.
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Official BBR Grouch]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19567049 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:23:36 EDT Re: [Philly] Boy Scouts Getting Evicted http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19566908 CtrlAltDel :
said by JPuppy See Profile :

Good riddance. Under no circumstances should public money subsidize groups who have discrimination written into their charter.
Hmmm.... I missed the part where it said that public money was subsidizing the Boy Scouts. They are a PRIVATE organization who built their own building with their own money, renovated it with their own money, and maintain it with their own money. It costs the city nothing. There is no discrimination, but there is an exclusionary policy.

This is a Hot Topic in Philly. Apparently there is a homosexual lobby but no straight lobby in the political circles. One guy did try:

»www.philly.com/philly/news/break···202.html
Boy Scout vote fired up Kelly’s foes

By Jeff Shields

INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Paul Corbett doesn't have anything personal against City Councilman Jack Kelly. He just wants Kelly out of office for trying to evict the local Boy Scouts from their city-owned headquarters because of the national organization's anti-gay policy.

In September, the 78-year-old Corbett, a Republican like Kelly, sent a warning letter: Unless Kelly reversed his position on kicking the scouts out of their city-owned building on Logan Square, Corbett would target him with 20,000 fliers that he said highlighted Kelly's support of "the homosexual agenda which would promote sodomy to our youth."

Kelly didn't bite. Corbett did. On weekends leading up to the Nov. 6 election, Corbett and his ad hoc committee, Citizens Opposed to Politicians Who Pander to Perverts, leafletted cars outside churches in the Northeast.

The "Voter Alert," printed on yellow index cards, read: "Councilman Jack Kelly voted with the homosexual lobby to remove the Boy Scouts from their city rent-free headquarters. The Scouts can remain only if they agree with the homosexual agenda which would promote sodomy to our youth."



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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19566908 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 09:58:37 EDT Re: [Philly] Boy Scouts Getting Evicted http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19566697 JPuppy : Good riddance. Under no circumstances should public money subsidize groups who have discrimination written into their charter.
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Official BBR Grouch]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19566697 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 09:13:06 EDT Re: [Philly] Boy Scouts Getting Evicted http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19566281 FlsRend : Just so things are clear here....there is a difference between being gay and being a pedophile.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19566281 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 06:42:51 EDT [Philly] Boy Scouts Getting Evicted http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19564295 CtrlAltDel : The Boy Scouts of America have been in existence for almost 100 years and their policies have stood the test of time. They have done so many "good turns" for America that I cannot begin to list them. In Philadelphia, they built a beautiful building for their headquarters with their own money on city owned land and were granted a lease forever for one dollar per year. Now the city suddenly wants to charge them $200,000 per year rent, which is in direct conflict with the original lease.

»www.philly.com/philly/news/local···ine.html

quote:
Scouts ignore gay-policy deadline

They held off on lifting a ban also barring atheists. The city said it would look for a new tenant for their Logan headquarters.

The Cradle of Liberty Council built the Beaux Arts structure in 1928 on Fairmount Park land that the city agreed to lease to it in perpetuity for a dollar a year.

Jubelirer said the scouts should not be required to pay additional rent for a building the scouting council built, spent $2.6 million renovating in 1994, and pays $60,000 a year to maintain.


What has happened is that the morals of the people in the city have changed and some laws have also changed because of the changes in morality. It is very understandable that the Boy Scouts want to keep homosexuals away from the young boys to avoid having the homosexuals sleeping in the same tent or cabin as the Boy Scouts.

The answer to this problem is to start a Gay Boy Scouts of America where the homosexuals could go camping together and leave the BSA as it has been since 1910.

Boy Scouts built the building and have a lease, but the powers think they can change the Scouts by cheating them out of their building. We won't change.

Philadelphia has a terrible crime and murder problem and recreation centers and Boy Scouts are a way to keep the youth off of the streets and in a safe environment. Too bad the city officials can't see past their noses and are willing to allow the anti-straight, anti-religion protesters to have their way. It's a sad, sad, day for the youth of our city. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19564295 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:59:26 EDT