Hctim
join:2004-09-12
Denver, CO
| This is a Joke
lol, Level 3 Communications has 400Gbps of backbone transmission routes .
Level 3 is growing 12% faster then any other backbone ISP. Also Level 3 has the most dark fiber out of any provider. I'm note sure why this is such a big deal?
BTW I work at Level 3 
Mitch |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
1 edit | Hi mitch,
What happened on thanksgiving day, black friday, and cyber monday?
Most e-retailer sites I (and many others) were trying to reach were non responsive. Most likely, I would have made purchases if I had been able to browse the e-tailers sites.
Glut or bottleneck? Capacity isnt reached yet?
Next hammering will be christmas eve to the day after christmas, can level 3 handle it? Guess we will see.
I will be thinking about this article when I am surfing at xmas 
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‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
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Hctim
join:2004-09-12
Denver, CO | What are you talking about? You have no clue... Please provides status one what your talking about. Do you even know who Level 3 is »www.level3.com/about_us/index.html ? |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
1 edit | said by Hctim  :What are you talking about? You have no clue... Please provides status one what your talking about. Do you even know who Level 3 is » www.level3.com/about_us/index.html ? Say what? Since almost every ISP Ive had has leased from level 3, I am aware of thier status. I am also aware of when they have had problems, since I have been on the recieving end ...
This very site has pointed to level 3 router problems many times.
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‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
Solon |
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Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
| Hey kids... while level3 does have some routers on the DSLR "watch" list I think the slowdown you were talking about on cybermonday and such was due to servers not being able to handle the demands, the backbones were fine btw.
All ISPS have their occasional hiccups. Its the name of the game. |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
2 edits | Yes, level 3 is usually pretty quick to fix problems, they are one of the best carriers.
This does not mean that capacity is met, just that they can point to this report for an excuse on why they didnt spend more on infrastructure, saying we dont need it.
Part of the problem might be the servers, but so many of them at once?
And this isnt occasional, its been happening every holiday for years. Also, I have never seen an internet product launch without massive internet congestion. When these problems are solved, we will have met capacity.
Id like to see reports from a neutral 3rd party with proof of your claim that the backbone was "fine" and what you consider fine is.
thanks
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‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
Solon |
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Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
| gaforces - Whoa a neutral 3rd party investigation? Uhh you can find stuff like this out for yourself, ie you can be that 3rd party.
The reality is the backbone problems are actually pretty easy to diagnose. You can run pings and tracerts to pinpiont if the connection is dying somewhere along the line. In your case, you may have had congestion on your little slice of network - but this could have been proven/disproven at the time with a little forensics.
Go download a little program called pingplotter. It will graph the hops it takes to get to network destination and give you a nice little graph (on the shareware version, not freeware ver). One of the most useful tools I've ever used for diagnosing network issues with my ISP.
If you experience this problem again, I'd start loading up pingplotter and try to trace the sites your going to. You may be surprised to find the packets get to/from the loacation just fine, it's just the servers can't process the request.
Your comment about the internet product launch is almost laughable - because all the examples I can think of were server based issues. Like during the holidays when you try to do that online checkout dance, do you end up with page timeouts dealing with your shopping cart and the normal checkout process? Thats a server issue bud! They're getting slammed. |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
3 edits | Thanks for the info, I had heard that nowadays routers/servers discard pings? Usually when it gets slow I just stop the frustration of waiting for sites to load and watch a movie or something.
Since it usually always happens at holidays, I already know the problem is congestion, so no further investigation is necessary. Doesnt matter where its from, just that it happens, then goes away after demand goes down.
I had just wanted to see some stats of how much traffic went through at black friday, because my experience wasnt "fine" trying to surf etailers. Sears, RadioShack, Circuit City, Staples, OfficeMax, Newegg, ZipZoomFly, and Home Depot were all crawling very slowly, and it was all the servers, backbone was fine. I just have a hard time believing that, sorry 
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‘Do ye, quieting in your bosoms your strong hearts,
Who of many good things have had your fill even to surfeit,
With what is moderate nourish your mighty desire; for neither will
We yield, nor shall you have all else as you wish.’
Solon |
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