dslwanter
Cablewanter
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Lowellville, OH
 ·AT&T Midwest
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| Running a server and your TOS
As many of you know I've mentioned that Armstrong Cable has taken over our Cable system and soon I'll be able to get cable modem. Under their FAQ I've read that you're not permitted to run a server. I run an internet radio station that broadcasts to a server at Live365 and then Live365 retransmits it to an X amount of listeners, I'm not actually running the server.
Is this still considered a "server"?
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Rombus
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Cuyahoga Falls, OH | It could be construed as you running a server, but so could any number of things. Chances are, as long as your not using a huge amount of bandwidth or causing some problem with there network, they might never even notice. |
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dslwanter
Cablewanter
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Lowellville, OH | It usually amounts to around 20GB a month, give or take a few MB. |
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dslwanter
Cablewanter
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Lowellville, OH
·AT&T Midwest
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| reply to dslwanter
Well I contacted their support to see about usage caps and if the trucks I've been using are an indication of the upgrade and got this:
Thank you for contacting Armstrong support, Zoom does not limit Internet usage to any of our customers. So you can technically upload and download all month and there is no limit on how much can be uploaded or downloaded. Unfortunately we are unaware of the time frame for the complete rebuild of the cable system to allow us to deliver all of our services to your area, however if you have been seeing the trucks in the area more then likely that is the construction crew that is doing the rebuild. If you have any further questions please contact our technical support at 1-877-486-4666, our hours of operation are:
Monday – Friday: 8am - Midnight
Saturday: 8am - 10pm
Sunday: 2pm - 10pm
So I'm not too worried about it.
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WiFiguru
Formerly jnethostman
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Bakersfield, CA
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·AT&T DSL Service
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| reply to dslwanter
You are not running a server.
Live365 takes care of that, you just have 1 constant upload stream running.
Now, since they don't limit anything, you should be able to go.
You are not running the physical server at your house, the server resides with Live365.
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rody_44
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join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA | reply to dslwanter
i think your still running a server. i dont think it would be a problem but your still a server. 1 client or 100 when its a constant stream its still a server. |
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TheSawg
join:2007-08-01
Phoenix, AZ | reply to dslwanter
Live365 the server is on your end, people connect to them and not you to listen to your stream. It is *not* a server. |
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brimulti
join:2006-12-18
Twin Falls, ID
| reply to dslwanter
So technically no one can use their services because there are servers built into every computer now days. All kinds of business apps run on internal servers on local machines and communicate with the master server located elsewhere. Many other applications have servers built in or utilize the internal server capabilities of your windows PC.
You are at their mercy no matter what. |
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Rombus
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Cuyahoga Falls, OH
| said by brimulti  :So technically no one can use their services because there are servers built into every computer now days. All kinds of business apps run on internal servers on local machines and communicate with the master server located elsewhere. Many other applications have servers built in or utilize the internal server capabilities of your windows PC. You are at their mercy no matter what. The servers that the TOS referees to are things like mail and web servers, What your describing runs on the LAN, or even inside the computer itself. Frankly, the only reason most TOSs don't allow servers is because a misconfigured server can cause havoc on the network. Also in most cases, the cable co uses the "server ban" as an excuse to bump up the business customers to a business plan.
As long as your server is working as intended, not illegal, and not causing problems to the network, chances are it wont even be noticed. |
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punker
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join:2004-06-21
Palmdale, CA
clubs: | reply to dslwanter
i Run a server (torrent) i use about 200GB a month and 50-60up |
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NormanS
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA | reply to rody_44
So, when you upload your web site via FTP, is that "running a server"? How is uploading data from your home to a server "running a server"?
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XPAMD
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join:2002-06-08
Mount Cory, OH
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| reply to dslwanter
If they designed their network like they did during their rebuild in Southern Ohio several years ago things should be very reliable.
However, hope they don't underestimate their backbone needs as when they went live with their service in Southern, Ohio. They initially had only a T1, their only tier was 512K down and 256K up. Once they got a faster Backbone everything was very reliable. Now they have at least 5M Down and 512K up. Not sure if they currently offer anything faster. |
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dslwanter
Cablewanter
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Lowellville, OH
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| said by XPAMD :If they designed their network like they did during their rebuild in Southern Ohio several years ago things should be very reliable. However, hope they don't underestimate their backbone needs as when they went live with their service in Southern, Ohio. They initially had only a T1, their only tier was 512K down and 256K up. Once they got a faster Backbone everything was very reliable. Now they have at least 5M Down and 512K up. Not sure if they currently offer anything faster. Their speed tiers go 256k, 5000k, then 10000k. We're neighboring a few communities that they've served since cable came out. I assume we're going to be on the same bus. They almost have the entire south end of our township wired, my street included, and they only started deploying the new cabling last Monday, though they've been putting up the support wiring to hold the cabling up since November. It may be just a couple of months.
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