sbrook
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join:2001-12-14
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 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
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| reply to COMPETE
Re: Usage Charges for Bandwidth hogs
It's not in the CRTC's mandate. It's the department of Industry ... lobby the minister and your MP. At the moment as far as the DoI is concerned, there is lots of competition (but from there own numbers, for the life of me, I don't see how they dare come to that conclusion when 94% (something like that) of people are with the incumbent telcos and cable cos.
It used to be that they counted dialup providers in the number of users.
One thing is clear though, even the alternate telephone services are not really competetive. As much as I dislike Bell, I know that they know the telephone business and their service is 100%. There's no finger pointing between CLEC and ILEC when there's problems.
I don't see competition actually happening. In the cable internet world, the major competitor is 3web (cia) ... look in the Canadian Broadband forum and see how well they fare! |
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COMPETE
@pathcom.com
|  reply to bombz
said by bombz :
i agree, rogers should offer users options, extra 100GB = extra 10$ a month, id gladly pay that, prob pay them 30 - 40 $ extra. i don't want to be restricted on what i am able to or not to download monthly !!! It comes to a point that whether charging for additional $30-$40 for overage usage is right or not for an originally claimed 'unlimited' Internet. I think these big ISP's tactic is already winning the war since consumers are backing off in favor of their decision of changing the agreement. Next time they will ask you to pay more or else they will cap or lower your speed. And there will have ppl saying they can pay extra for good speed. That's the world we live in. Sign...
I saw some posts in DSLreports somebody from Sweden has 100M down and 20M up. Gee... Please do something CRTC to bring competition in here. We need competition... |
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bombz
@rogers.com
| reply to a_large_rock
i agree, rogers should offer users options, extra 100GB = extra 10$ a month, id gladly pay that, prob pay them 30 - 40 $ extra. i don't want to be restricted on what i am able to or not to download monthly !!! it gets annoying. I don't run servers, don't mess with torrents, but do get a lot of data.
most used media in the world, and now they want to charge us for how much data we use... its bullshit |
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spikeIH
@spykes.net
| reply to a_large_rock
Re: Usage Charges for Bandwidth hogs
The whole $1.50 per GB is a joke in itself.
Take for instance, I pay $2000 a month at my datacenter for just a 100mbit commission of bandwidth at 95th percentile to my full cabinet, if I chose to cap it out solid for a month, I'd consume about 30TB of bandwidth that entire month in the process. Yes, thats over 30,000 gigs! Well worth the 2 grand dont'cha think? The more bandwidth you pay for the cheaper it becomes and that should be no secret to anyone working in the field.
Rogers is paying for oodles of bandwidth, and while it won't cost them anything more if you capped your internet during the night hours, they're free to charge you $1.50/gb for going over anyways.
Quite appalling to say the least. As if lowering the caps wasn't bad enough already. I guess the internet subscribers now have to pay for the old Olympic building in Yonge/Dundas Square that CityTV is going to move into. |
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spikeIH
@spykes.net
| reply to a_large_rock
According to Ted's faulty logic, soon anyone who uses over 50 (regular) or 75gb (extreme) is a bandwidth hog. What exactly are Rogers customers paying for again? Anyone can use that much just by being a streaming video (ala youtube) addict, forget the bittorrent users. |
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devilshaven
@rogers.com
| reply to Bellunder
ok caps are bad
but i noticed that tecksevy charges 10$ extra for 100gigs more on their premium package(i shish i could switch but not dsl service here)
if rogers gives options like this to users it would be a great option
i usually use around the 200gig mark, so it would be a nice option
for exemple
i get over 100gigs, they charge me 1.25 for extra gig to a max of 10$ at which they just upgrade me to 200gig, and then 1.25 more to a max of 10 to get a total of 300gig and 20$ over my regular bill
^^^^ that would be more resonable in my eye's, and i think it should cover rogers end too, and it will make me feel like a car in a parking lot |
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Bellunder
@teksavvy.com | reply to a_large_rock
Looks like it may be simpler for many just to declare personal bankruptcy that way Ted can't squeeze you for the cash! |
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muchlulz
@swipnet.se | reply to a_large_rock
So if you got dos'ed you'd receive a $3500 bill? Niiiice one Robbers. |
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swintec
Premium
join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME
 ·RapidVPS
·surpasshosting
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
 ·VoicePulse
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to a_large_rock
Those overage fees are painful to see. Is Rogers business class under the same restrictions? It would seem if you knew you were going to go over all the time, a business class connection would be better..and cheaper.
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Newfie
join:2001-05-08
St John'S, NL | reply to a_large_rock
Cap is at $200 for overage on Extreme Plus. |
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devilshaven
@rogers.com
| reply to devilshaven
any forgot, if they ever want people to even think about extreme plus they better at the very least extand the cap to 150-200gig at the very lease, don't need a 2-3 times the connection for twice the price but with a smaller cap
i get over my cap with 8mbit all ready |
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devilshaven
@rogers.com
| reply to a_large_rock
its December, i received my Bill two day's ago, had no notice of any kind regarding caps from january
and by saying when paying this bill u agree to the terms of use doesn't cut it, can't read a document every time i pay my bill when they add a small line somewhere changing my service from unlimited to Fucked
last few months i have been supposedly doing 200gigs from rogers, no charges, no notice, no calls
sorry for my language |
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a_large_rock
join:2003-08-02
Markham, ON
·Cogeco Cable
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| It appears that lots of users on this form have been going over their quota and haven't taken the bandwidth quota seriously yet. With hints from some people (»Rogers Overages will be Chargeable as of Jan. 1st 2008) that Rogers will start implementing charges on all levels of service beginning jan 1st I think it would be a good idea to see how these charges might effect users who try to download as much as possible each month.
So far the only service Rogers has published overage rates for is Extreme Plus (»www.rogers.com/web/content/inter···et_usage), and they don’t list a maximum limit as experienced by (»!! $$$ Just got billed for EXTREME Overages TODAY Dec5$$$ !!). I have thus made my calculations for each service using Extreme Plus as a ‘best guess scenario’ although there is nothing official saying this overage rate will be used for all services. There have been indications that $2.50/GB may be apply to some services, and a cap of $20, $50, or $100. However I couldn’t find this information figure in any document mentioned in Rogers Term’s of Service, Acceptable Usage Policy and the ~$350 for ~260GB over experience of one user seems to indicate there isn’t a cap. Theoretical maximum speeds have been used which are not be obtainable in the real world. The point of this is to show you how much trouble you could get into if you try to maximize your internet connection.. Basically.. don’t try to download as much as possible, and monitor your P2P software… don’t run it without limits.. and don't leave it running all the time!!
Extreme Plus
90gb cap
$99.95/Month
$1.25/GB over quota
18mbit downstream
1mbit upstream
Cost per gigabyte of cap $1.11
Time to reach cap at Theoretical speed 21.05m/day
Theoretical bandwidth you could use in one month 6156Gb
Cost of Theoretical Bandwidth over monthly Quota $7582.5
Extreme
100gb cap
$52.95/Month
$1.25/GB over quota
8mbit downstream
0.8mbit upstream
Cost per gigabyte of cap $0.53
Time to reach cap at Theoretical speed 50.51m/day
Theoretical bandwidth you could use in one month 2861Gb
Cost of Theoretical Bandwidth over monthly Quota $3439.0
Express
60gb cap
$44.95/Month
$1.25/GB over quota
7mbit downstream
0.512mbit upstream
Cost per gigabyte of cap $0.75
Time to reach cap at Theoretical speed 35.50m/day
Theoretical bandwidth you could use in one month 2434Gb
Cost of Theoretical Bandwidth over monthly Quota $2967.36
Lite
60gb cap
$32.95/Month
$1.25/GB over quota
1mbit downstream
0.128mbit upstream
Cost per gigabyte of cap $0.55
Time to reach cap at Theoretical speed 236.41m/day
Theoretical bandwidth you could use in one month 365.47Gb
Cost of Theoretical Bandwidth over monthly Quota $381.84
Ultra-Lite
60gb cap
$22.95/Month
$1.25/GB over quota
0.256mbit downstream
0.064mbit upstream
Cost per gigabyte of cap $0.38
Time to reach cap at Theoretical speed 830.74m/day
Theoretical bandwidth you could use in one month 104.00Gb
Cost of Theoretical Bandwidth over monthly Quota $55 |
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