rv65
Rally racing is real racing
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join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA
| reply to cypherstream
Re: [TWC] Time Warner Navigator
I think in the next quarters will make Navigator a much better guide except SoCal seriously needs to update MDN to the newer version. Maybe their waiting for MDN v3.0. They are running ODN v3.1.3_2 though on HDC boxes. Maybe they too are testing the Samsung boxes. |
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mike_f
join:2007-01-10
Hawthorne, CA
 ·Time Warner Cable
·Comcast
 ·DSL EXTREME
1 edit | reply to ifa
said by ifa  :I have the Samsung 3090 DVR. Since Monday of this week I've noticed that the Program Guide only goes out for four days. For example, today, October 28, the Program Guide will only go out until Noon of November 1st. Welcome to the peculiarities of Navigator. So far it seems to be designed for some lowest common denominator STB.
My new, non-DVR 4250HDC (ODN 3.1.1_3) stubbornly refuses to cache more than four hours of PG most of the time, although I've seen one - two days on occasion. It's not like it needs memory to run a DVR  .
Interestingly, Find Shows by Title seems to go out about seven days.
rv65 - any rumors on new ODN features for non-DVR boxes? |
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rv65
Rally racing is real racing
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join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA
| Even my Samsung 3260 does the same thing. It can do maybe 4 days but it takes so damn slow. I wished TWC used DSG instead of DAVIC.
New Navigator features are coming. They're DVR oriented though but some might be useful for non DVR boxes. These features won't come out until 2010 with San Diego or some other division to be the first. My Samsung 3270 DVR does 1 week of guide data. I think your division has their guide data server setup incorrectly.
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SA 8300HDC ODN v3.1.3_2
2x SMT-H3260 ODN v3.1.3_2
SMT-H3270 ODN v3.1.3_2
Watch the WRC on HD theatre. |
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rv65
Rally racing is real racing
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join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA
| Keep in mind that there are quite a few customers using old Pioneer and SA boxes. When I was last at the TWC center there were a few people swapping in those SA 2000 boxes for new 4250HDC's. They did have Samsung 3260 HD-STB's and 3270 HD-DVR's if you asked. They still had quite a few SA boxes though. I did see a few legacy 8300 boxes available. The Pioneers and older SA are way too slow but they did do some enhancements but they still. Most of these boxes are in the double digits. Newer SA boxes are much better except for the 8000/8000HD DVR which sucks even with Passport. The 3250HD, 8300HD, and the newer HDC boxes are generally ok. I had a Pioneer box with an older version of MDN and man was that slow. I swapped it out for a DVR and moved the 3250HD from downstairs to my room and it was great until I got to try out the Samsung 3260.
Most people with these types of boxes swap them until they die. To them if it ain't broke don't fix it. I'm sure there are HDTV's hooked up to these archaic POS boxes modulated and stretched. When I got my Samsung 3270 and my other 3260 all they gave me were HD cables. I had like 2 sets of HDMI and 3 sets of component.
Hope this helps.
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SA 8300HDC ODN v3.1.3_2
2x SMT-H3260 ODN v3.1.3_2
SMT-H3270 ODN v3.1.3_2
Watch the WRC on HD theatre. |
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rv65
Rally racing is real racing
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join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA
| reply to cypherstream
The new Samsung DVD recorder STB is very important to TWC. The reason why it's so important is that they can rape you even more. You can copy first run VOD movies put for an additional fee per movie. It's also said to have excellent PQ. The Copy Quality is also said to be very good as well. Better than DVD quality. You can only copy a VOD movie only once! It's a DVR box so you can copy DVR recordings to DVD.
Cisco is also testing one as well. TWC will test both of course but I still think it will be Samsung. TWC has a rather sweet contract. Besides SA has gone downhill when Cisco took over them. A TWC employee in one division I must keep unnamed said their Quality Control was terrible and that they were making them as fast as they could in Mexico. They wanted the new Samsungs so that they could have something that was supposedly more reliable.
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SA 8300HDC ODN v3.1.3_2
2x SMT-H3260 ODN v3.1.3_2
SMT-H3270 ODN v3.1.3_2
Watch the WRC on HD theatre. |
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rv65
Rally racing is real racing
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join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA
| The cost to copy a VOD movie will be akin to buying a cheap DVD. This can add up on your cable bill. TWC loves things that make your cable bill insanely high. Then again, I got a much better and cheaper double play bundle and no I won't get this new box as it would make that bill to high for us. They'll probably charge an additional monthly fee on top of that. This is mostly rumors so some stuff might not be true.
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SA 8300HDC ODN v3.1.3_2
2x SMT-H3260 ODN v3.1.3_2
SMT-H3270 ODN v3.1.3_2
Watch the WRC on HD theatre. |
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rv65
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join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA | This will also likely apply to the new Copy to VCR feature that is coming back to Navigator. |
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LyleGoldstei
join:2006-10-12
Forest Hills, NY
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RV or Vis,
I would really appreciate any input you have for this problem. I have one box that continuously misses scheduled recordings. The recording log says set-top box was unable to record this program. It seems to always to happen when two shows are scheduled to record together.
As I have several hours of old shows that I have not gotten to you, I prefer not to get yet another box.
I just wanted to get your input as if its specific box problem or system wide issue that others have had problems with. |
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visuelz
join:2003-05-01
Brooklyn, NY
1 edit | Send you a message Lyle |
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rv65
Rally racing is real racing
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join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA | reply to cypherstream
I guess good things do come for those who wait. If the new versions are as good as TWC promises then it will be awesome. |
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rv65
Rally racing is real racing
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join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA
| reply to cypherstream
Sort by favorites has been in ODN for quite some time yet they deleted it in MDN v2.4.6-19. I no longer have my MDN box so it doesn't affect me. TWC has their work cut out for Navigator. This time they'll fix bugs and add new features. My Samsung 3270 has also missed a few recordings. Then again my only complaint besides the missed recordings is that it's hooked up to an old SDTV via a somewhat broken composite connector. It would be much better if we get an HDTV for that room.
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SA 8300HDC ODN v3.1.3_2
2x SMT-H3260 ODN v3.1.3_2
SMT-H3270 ODN v3.1.3_2
Watch the WRC on HD theatre. |
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maartena
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to cypherstream
Things I want most:
- Keyword search, like passport had.
- Better descriptions of programs, like passport had.
And this one is just starting to piss me off:
- If it is 5:57, and you are browsing the 6 o'clock block to see what's coming in a few minutes.... and you see a progam you want to see, and you click select.... all that comes up are record options, not a "watch channel now" option (which should be on the top of the list). Instead, you have to go back to the 5 to 6 o'clock block, and select the channel to watch it.... because it is still friggin 5:59!
They really should fix that one. RV65, you seem to have all the inside info somehow, do you know if that ever will be fixed?
I presume.... it will be fixed "soon"TM*
* Definition of "soon"TM yet to be determined. Past project completions using the "soon"TM description are no guarantee for future project completion dates using the "soon"TM description.
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rv65
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join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA
| Better Guide data already is in ODN v3.1.3_2 in San Diego. The core descriptions are the same but Movie listings now have the actors and the director. The regular listings show the original airdate. Keyword search will be added next year. The search function in general is getting overhauled and it will be much better. I think the Keyboard search will be enhanced to search for keywords. As for the 6 o'clock feature I can't say about that. SoCal is still stuck on ODN v3.1.1_3 so they don't have the new data. I think maybe they can get better data but I find ODN has very good data. ODN v3.1.3_2 can have the current non descriptive data so they have to update the guide data servers. I don't work for them but I can get info from various sources. ODN I think is going to be the preferred version of Navigator since I think it will get the new features first. Also my division deploys new versions of Navigator before anybody else but that could change.
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SA 8300HDC ODN v3.1.3_2
2x SMT-H3260 ODN v3.1.3_2
SMT-H3270 ODN v3.1.3_2
Watch the WRC on HD theatre. |
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rv65
Rally racing is real racing
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join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA
| reply to cypherstream
»www.cedmagazine.com/News-TWC-STB···509.aspx
This could be more for the investors though. TWC does want to eliminate having multiple STB's and just have 1 server like STB for all TV's in the house. This can be done with W7MC but limited to only 4 tuners. Other HTPC software can do this. |
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rv65
Rally racing is real racing
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San Diego, CA
1 edit | quote:
Thank you for contacting Time Warner Cable Email Support.
I understand after the Navigator upgrade, sort by favorites feature is unavailable. You have found that this feature is still on the website.
I apologize for the inconvenience and will be glad to help you.
Thank you for bringing this to our notice. We will share your suggestion with our technical team is working on several improvements to the Search functionality. With the latest improvement, when you press B for search, the keyboard displays immediately. You can then press and hold any of the arrow keys to skip quickly through the letters and it will wrap around to the next row.
With the next phase of improvements, when you press B for Search, the program list displayed to the right of the keyboard will be positioned on the title of the program you are either currently watching or have navigated to in the Guide.
A later phase of improvements will allow you to search for a channel number by entering the name of the network. It will further consolidate multiple listings for the same show.
From a TWC email. Keyword search is cryptically mentioned along with other search improvements. Copy to VCR and remote guide programming are future updates. Maybe TWC will half ass the Keyword search but I hope they dont since they might have licensed the Tivo patents for it.
The arrow key skip works with ODN v3.1.3_2.
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SA 8300HDC ODN v3.1.3_2
2x SMT-H3260 ODN v3.1.3_2
SMT-H3270 ODN v3.1.3_2
Watch the WRC on HD theatre. |
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motorola870
join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX | reply to rv65
this wont work because it has limited amount of tuners. plus it violates imbeded security ban and might be illegal if consumer stbs are no longer supported. |
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rv65
Rally racing is real racing
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join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA | I think they'll support consumer STB's. The idea is to stream to other MoCA enabled STB's. New STBS will support MoCA. Plus a single M-Card can do up to 6 tuners. |
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Archangel83
join:2009-11-02 | reply to cypherstream
I hope we get navagtor in our area we still have sara errrr :| |
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rv65
Rally racing is real racing
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join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA
| You will. Greensboro is the first division to go to Navigator. They could be testing it though. Some features like Copy to VCR has been removed in Navigator though it's coming back in a later update. It has a lot of features. Some of which take some getting used to. |
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chazman151
join:2008-05-11
Fresh Meadows, NY | reply to cypherstream
Any word on manual recording? |
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