Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... in Qwest

Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... in Qwest http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19592705 en Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:54:32 EDT Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:54:32 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19752477 anon : On the home network QOS is upload mostly or only.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19752477 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:02:20 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19747871 anon : I have Packet 8 also, but voice is garbage when downloading and upload files or cruising the internet. Glad it works for you, but from 2wire's web site;

What is QoS (Quality of Service) and does 2Wire support it?

Question
What is QoS? Does 2Wire support QoS?

Answer
QoS, or Quality of Service, is a method for increasing the chances for specified types of network traffic to be transmitted and received as quickly as possible.

QoS is not currently implemented by 2Wire, because all 2Wire hardware and software is customized for our ISP partners, and no partner has requested the general implementation of QoS for their customers.

Some third-party network equipment has various types of QoS enabled, but if the ISP does not share QoS with the customer-side equipment, any benefits will only be realized in the LAN. Once the packets move to the WAN they are treated as any other packets.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19747871 Sun, 06 Jan 2008 02:37:54 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19745712 fmustang76 : Just wanted to input my 2 cents. I was looking on Google to see if there was a firmware update for my modem when I came across this forum. My 2wire is working fine, I just like to keep thing up-to-date. Anyway, my modem is as follows:

2wire 2701HG-D Gateway
Software: 5.29.59-QT03
SIP Application Layer Gateway- DISABLED
Firewall For VoIP- Tried both Maximum Protection & DMZ
Qwest DSL Nebraska

I been using my 2wire along with Packet8 VoIP service for over a month now. It was free to try the first month with a free phone so I decided to give it a shot. I am always downloading large files and surf the web at the same time(we have an average of 2PC's in use at the same time, sometimes up to 5). I can say that even when downloading large files (XP SP2, etc) using the Windows down-loader and surfing the web, I have not had any distortion in my calls either in or out. I can say I had a slight jitter when using a faster download manager that makes more connections than it's share. Perfection is something that seems to much for any VoIP service. But otherwise I can say the 2Wire performs great even under that load. So like it was already said, "Throttle" your downloads.

FM]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19745712 Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:21:29 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19735275 dslrus : Your DSL modem QOS configuration can really only affect your connection in one direction, UPLOAD. To get true QOS in both directions UP and DOWN everything in the path needs to be configured and participate, however the last time I checked the internet is best effort escpecailly when crossing multiple peoples networks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19735275 Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:22:18 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19728981 anon : The 2701hg is a worthless DSL modem. No support from your DSL provider and 2wire will defer you to your phone company who states a fall 08 qos fix, yeah right. Trash it, or return it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19728981 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:20:03 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19728911 anon : No, this does not help. VoIP is distorted when cruising the internet. I guess this model is now surfacing with Qwest & AT&T as a the dsl modem of choice and fails to meet the VoIP test, returned it, back to my old reliable Cisco.

Wherever it was posted, this outsource thing is going to bring us to out knees, shortly. I tried to call at&t, you get a leave your message at the tone and that was 60 days ago. No return call. That is why I gave up, and everyone else should to. They don't care, and after 90 days the telcos care less.

If you just received a 2701hg send it back as soon as you can.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19728911 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:02:35 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19702086 anon : not trying to add fuel to the fire here, but it seems this thread has gotten some attention on other forums.

was looking for some answers on another issue when I stumbled on this thread

»2-wire 2701HG does not support QoS?

seems that Kill4Speed had his 2701HG configured the way the documentation for the ALG (SIP Application Layer Gateway) says, (DISABLED) and set the settings up for his ATA.

I'll qoute questionable again, "The trick is to be smarter them the modem."

anyway, hope this helps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19702086 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:52:17 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19690441 anon : Same problem is California. Stumbled across this thread when I searched Google for the 2701HG. You can barely hold a legibale VoIP conversation on Vonage when performing Yahoo or Google searches and especially during a download, not upload, of even a 10mb file. Also, the TA is behind the 2701HG. You can't put the TA in front of the 2701HG because it "is" the DSL modem & router in one. Why would any company ship a product that does not support QoS these days? I read an article on VoIP recently; 20m US VoIP suscribers EOY 2007, will climb to 25m by EOY 2008, and predicted to be 35m by EOY 2010.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19690441 Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:46:01 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19686360 questionable : Obviously you have never read my other posts. I'm a normal person/user. I do not work for ATT or Qwest. As I stated in a previous post I throttle my OWN upload. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19686360 Wed, 26 Dec 2007 08:52:56 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19685871 anon :

said by Texas :

The 2701HG-B in Austin is a joke, it does not support QoS and any moron that would post they can download large files and talk VoIP without voice breakup is obviously an employee of either at&t or Qwest. The best use of this modem is to drive down an interstate and accidentaly drop it out your car window onto the highway.

I hope that someone at 2wire reads this so they can hide behind mama Bell's skirt. It is a failed product backed by a spinless company (2-wire) that offers no support to the public. Promises of upgrades in late 2008 only support what will come, no upgrade will ever for this model, try us again in late 2008 when we will offer another model that may or may not support QoS.

Doing that much upload and probably download the new invisible EUP will kick in. You will be kicked of. ;)

Sorry a bad joke.

QOS is mostly upload so get your own good router. Set it up behind the modem, then all is fine. Problem solved. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19685871 Wed, 26 Dec 2007 02:09:05 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19685752 anon : The 2701HG-B in Austin is a joke, it does not support QoS and any moron that would post they can download large files and talk VoIP without voice breakup is obviously an employee of either at&t or Qwest. The best use of this modem is to drive down an interstate and accidentaly drop it out your car window onto the highway.

I hope that someone at 2wire reads this so they can hide behind mama Bell's skirt. It is a failed product backed by a spinless company (2-wire) that offers no support to the public. Promises of upgrades in late 2008 only support what will come, no upgrade will ever for this model, try us again in late 2008 when we will offer another model that may or may not support QoS.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19685752 Wed, 26 Dec 2007 01:08:56 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19657225 christcorp : Just one more reason to use the most basic DSL modem available, and use a "REAL" router for all your network needs. e.g. voip, qos, VPN, gaming, port forwarding, etc...

It's been said too many times. You get what you pay for. I've yet to find a "COMBO" unit of any type that can perform any where near equal to standalone units. Even cheaper units. I'd take a basic actiontec 1524 and a cheap belkin router before I'd buy and use a dsl modem/router combo. Granted; all of the dsl modems provided have a router built in, but that doesn't mean you have to use it.

I know that some will say that you are buying a modem/router combo and therefor it should work. That's true. But I wouldn't buy a Combo stereo sound system; combo dvd/vcr/tv player; or just about any combo unit. You won't get the quality or flexibility that you can with standalone units. Oh well, just another example. Later... Mike....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19657225 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:29:25 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19656559 questionable : Questionable actually does upload large files to his work. 100 meg and up when talking with them. (but i throttle my own files) like I said it's just a matter of understanding the modem.

But it seems if you want QoS then you need to contact qwest to normal channels and request them to get it from the manufactuer]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19656559 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:37:42 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19655064 anon : "Questionable" has not tried uploading a large file while talking on his VoIP phone. No, the 2701HG-B does not have QoS enabled either. I never said VoIP would not work with the 2701HG series, I said VoIP is garbeled when trying to talk on the phone while cruising the internet or downloading / uploading large files. No conversation should be garbeled with VoIP if the DSL modem supports QoS, that is what QoS is all about.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19655064 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:31:53 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19620774 anon : documentation is not foolproof. just thought it was worth a try since the same procedure was an option on a call about 6 months ago.

poster "questionable" though seems to have his 2701HG-D working fine.

sorry that we could not be of more help.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19620774 Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:21:16 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19611761 anon : Q3 2008 is like next Oct. I don't think anyone should expect to wait that long. By then the next latest 2-Wire model will ship. I guess I should consider taking the 2701hg-D back to the store and research other equipment options. What a disappointment and waste of my time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19611761 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:49:26 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19611384 rogunit : From the thread in the Qweat forum:

Yes, Qwest is working on a resolution to the issue. The QoS issue with the 2Wire modem will be addressed in the next firmware version that is currently being developed. I am still waiting for the "expected" release date of the firmware but I will post more information when I have it.

then...

Barring any setbacks, the new 2Wire firmware is expected to be released in Q3 of 2008.

Torrance
Qwest Admin

Good to know they are at least working on it!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19611384 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:43:11 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19608219 anon : I just found this on the router through MDC. If you can fix it feel free to post, if not, you should not post, if you are from another country trying to help, don't bother because you probably do not have access to this modem, do not use VoIP, and are not a Qwest DSL customer.

Advanced – Link Manager States
-->qos0 is UP
qos0 UP
Timeout: 0
File descriptor flags: 00000000
Reported error string: File Descriptor State: Count: 0 Active: 0 Events: 0
Module State Change History:
To State: UP at: 00:00:00.00
qos: disabled]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19608219 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:48:17 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19608179 anon : SIP is what Qwest uses for VoIP OneFlex protocol. What moron would tell you to disable it. Enabling / Disabling still does not enable QoS on the 2701hg and disabling assures garbled conversations. I am about to jump Qwest DSL and OneFlex if this issue is not fixed soon. All are welcome to say bye bye to me, but I have to say until you get this modem + VoIP and add new threads to ask, how could Qwest make such an a*'n decission to choose a product that does not support their own VoIP service? Don't talk to me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19608179 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:30:19 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19608034 anon : just got back to my workstation today,

ok, this may be too late but here is a level 1's take on your problem

there was a bug on the 2700HG-D firmware regarding SIP ALG and documentation said it was already corrected, the correction may not have carried over to the 2701HG-D firmware though.

as per documentation, you have to open up the 192.168.0.1/mdc page, go to the ADVANCED heading on the LEFT PANE and choose CONFIGURE SERVICES, UNSELECT the CHECKBOX next to “SIP Application Layer Gateway”, press on SUBMIT and you will be taken back to the 192.168.0.1/mdc main page. at this point you have to reboot ATA.

current firmware version may have the SIP Application Layer Gateway already UNCHECKED, if so CHECK it first, SUBMIT and open up the 192.168.0.1/mdc page again and this time UNCHECK and then SUBMIT. reboot ATA.

hope this helps. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19608034 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:45:28 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19606815 anon : I have been through two Action Tek wireless modems. Junk in my opinion including not supporting static and locked DHCP IP addresses, they also run hot. One arrived DOA the other as stated above. Auction Tek support is completly outsourced and cannot answer any question other than is the modem plugged into an AC outlet and the DSL line. If you mention any other issues they refer you to Qwest. I also left a vm on Qwest's corporate number, no return call as of today and it was left last Thurs. Quality of Service = VM no return call? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19606815 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:57:43 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19597795 Bill5309 : Agreed. It can work but the lvl 1 support folks have no way of telling folks how. I remember going to 2wire.com and seeing it didn't support VOIP in the beginning. I had a problem with that since Qwest sells it's own VOIP services. I found it a bit odd.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19597795 Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:45:30 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19597304 questionable : If it doesn't support VOIP then how am I using it with the 2wire. The trick is to be smarter them the modem]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19597304 Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:17:19 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19597265 Bill5309 : This was an issue I brought up when I first learned we were doing this modem, it does not support VOIP services. Trade in the modem for the m1000 actiontec, it does.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19597265 Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:08:55 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19594925 anon : No, but only proves there are others with the same issue. I see there was no resolution and that was on a Qwest forum.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19594925 Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:13:16 EDT Re: Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19594543 anon : is this your thread on the QWEST FORUM?

»https://forums.qwest.com/qwbb/board/mess···d.id=579

been wanting to reply to this one for some time, the answer may be in the 192.168.0.1/mdc page but have to dig into it some more................,]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19594543 Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:40:50 EDT Problems with Qwest 2-Wire 2701HG - Does not support QOS... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19592705 anon : I received a new Qwest labeled 2701HG DSL Wireless Modem but discovered very quickly Qwest OneFlex VoIP conversations are garbeled. I checked with 2-Wire and they refered me to Qwest since Qwest must request this feature from 2-Wire. When I contacted Qwest DSL they said that no one actually needs QOS enabled, so I contacted Qwest OneFlex would wanted the agent id of the DSL support rep I spoke to, obviously QOS is required for VoIP to work properly. So far we have a finger pointing contest within Qwest and 2-Wire is just waiting for a call from Qwest to enable it. So far Qwest's Spirit of service just flew out the window. 2 companies, 3 departments are not allowed to communicate with each other to resolve this issue?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19592705 Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:56:48 EDT